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Here's the two separate marriages:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1895
Blashill Mary Jane Sculcoates 9d 404
Slingsby Thomas Alfred Sculcoates 9d 404

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1899
Blashill Mary Jane Hull 9d 524
Gilchrist William Hull 9d 524

** Note the one to Slingsby came first.

Marie..you're a gem...thanks for the death info....did you notice at the top//"Hospital for the Insane"...that must have been where he was a Guard..rather than himslef being insane!! phew!! and i agree with you 1901 findings for Mary Jane Slingsby

Can't thank you all enough.

Derek.

I'd missed that Derek! Looks like he might have had an accident at work ....

There are quite a few passages for various Mary Gilchrists to Canada and also to US (many people went to US and then crossed over to Canada) - will sift through.

However, I've run out of time for tonight so if anyone else sees a likely passage for Mary Jane Gilchrist to Canada - feel free!

Image does say Ronald,but I think it's our Roland.
Coldwater was abt 35km from Penetanguishene by road.
Both are just a couple of kms from Victoria Harbour off Georgian Bay (pt of L Huron).

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Simcoe East / 42 Penetanguishene / page 26
35 253 Gilcrist William M Head M Jan 1861 50
36 253 Gilcrist Mary Jane F Wife M Jan 1868 43
37 253 McArthur Annie F Lodger S Mar 1864 47
[addy=Robert St, Penetanguishene Town, pob=England d.o.immig=1904(Wm)/1906(MJ) ? ? in a Box factory, industry= 5-x-50 Box maker & x=6 was a worker]

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002020227.pdf


1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Simcoe East / 44 Coldwater / page 6-7
50 64 Smith Lloyd M Head M Nov 1879 31
1 64 Smith Ada Alice F Wife M Aug 1885 25
2 64 Gilchrist Ronald M Lodger S Nov 1889 21
[addy=Harriett Street, Coldwater Village, pob=England, Laborer on a Farm]

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002020257.pdf
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002020258.pdf

Thanks malcolm gets better and better..I'm sure you're right that Ronald is Roland..the date of birth is correct.....

Many thanks again

HELP Marie.....just found a glitch to our reasoning.....Geroge Blashill is in 1871.."Recording officer"married to Catherine father of \mary Jane...
George..husband of Catherine is in 1901.."Registrar of births and deaths.....and of course Mary jane is not there cos she is married to William....BUT in 1911....George Blashill..."Retired registrar of Births and Deaths" is shown as father of Mary Jane Blashill who married Alfred Slingsby!!!!!!.........strange co-incidences..particularly as Mary jane was with her husband William in Canada by 1911!!.......

According to the 1911 Canadian census Mary Jane emigrated 1906 but try as I might I can't find the record of her emigration.

Thanks Margee..I can't either,,but its nice to know the date......soeone kindly sent me the 1911 Canada census for both William and Roland...

I'm getting really paranoid about Mary Jane Blashill born 1868....daughter of Samuel and Jane..daughter of George and Sarah..daughter of George and Catherine.
In 1911 when we know she is in Canada...."another" Mary Jane Blashill is married to Thomas Alfred Slingsby....both have a father George..both George's born the same time have the same occupation..Registrar's of Births and Death...what is going on!!! lol.

Derek

Derek, the Canadian census is free here:

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html

Click on "Split View" to see original.

Do you have birth date for your Mary Jane? The census says Jan. 1868.

Margee.........Mary Jane Blashill born 17.01.1868 baptised 25.02.1868..daughter of George and Catherine..married William Gilchrist 06.05.1899............definitely the correct one...all the way through to Canada census 1911...........

Samuel Blashill was a Workhouse Master...married to Jane....so he's out

George Blashill who married a sarah..was a Greengrocer..also father of mary J Blashill

In 1891 George 1838 of Sutton Yorkshire married to catherine..parents of "my" Mary Jane..............is a Registrar..

1911 George Blashill widower 1838 Sutton..father of Mary Jane Blashill wife of Slingsby is a RETIRED Registrar.......

It's crazy......

Derek.

Yikes! I see your problem, Derek!
Good luck!

I don't suppose there is an answer that we can find..i am happy that my research is meticulous and accurate...so i'll go with what ive got.

Many many thanks

Derek.

There are 2 MJ's born abt the same time. I don't know which is ours:

Births Mar 1868 (>99%)
Blashill Mary Jane Sculcoates 9d 118
Blashill Mary Jane Hull 9d 231

Marriages Jun 1886 (>99%)
BROWN Emily Sculcoates 9d 257
Gilchrist William Sculcoates 9d 257
LOGAN David Moodey Sculcoates 9d 257
SAMUEL Elizabeth Adelaide Sculcoates 9d 257

Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
Gilchrist Roland Sculcoates 9d 183

Deaths Sep 1897 (>99%)
Gilchrist Emily 35 Sculcoates 9d 151

Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%)
Blashill Mary Jane Hull 9d 524
Gilchrist William Hull 9d 524
Huntley Maude Louisa Hull 9d 524
Jackson Frederick George Hull 9d 524

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1881 Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
George BLACKILL Head M Male 43 Sutton Hull, York, England Relieving Offr Registrar & C
Catherine BLACKILL Wife M Female 40 Sutton Hull, York, England
William H. BLACKILL Son Male 15 Sutton Hull, York, England Grocers Apprentice
George BLACKILL Son Male 14 Hull, York, England Butchers Apprentice
Mary Jane BLACKILL Daug Female 13 Hull, York, England Scholar
Catherine BLACKILL Daug Female 12 Hull, York, England Scholar
Louisa BLACKILL Daug Female 10 Hull, York, England Scholar
Prudence BLACKILL Daug Female 9 Hull, York, England Scholar
Thomas BLACKILL Son Male 8 Hull, York, England Scholar
Francis BLACKILL Son Male 6 Hull, York, England Scholar
John BLACKILL Son Male 5 Hull, York, England Scholar
Edith BLACKILL Daug Female 4 Hull, York, England
Mary E. COLLINS Servt U Female 24 Hull, York, England Servant (Domestic
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Source Information:
Dwelling 32 Pemberton St
Census Place Sutton & Stoneferry, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342146
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4746 / 95
Page Number 3
Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Sutton
[Presumably image says Blashill, but I don't have access]


Marriages Jun 1865 (>99%)
Blashill George Hull 9d 385
Jenkins Ellen Hull 9d 385
Megginson Thomas Wray Hull 9d 385
Purdon Catherine Hull 9d 385


1881 Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Henry BLASHILL Head W Male 75 Preston, York, England Farmer 150 Ac 3 Men
Mary A. MARSHALL Daur M Female 37 Sutton, York, England Housekeeper (Dom)
Catherine MARSHALL Gd Daur Female 7 Sutton, York, England Scholar
Marian BLASHILL Gd Daur U Female 18 Bishopton, Hereford, England
Mary J. BLASHILL Gd Daur U Female 13 Hull, York, England Scholar
Sarah A. GLENTON Serv U Female 16 Sutton, York, England Domestic Serv General
William R. VICKERS Serv U Male 22 Farm Serv (Ind)
William SLATER Serv U Male 20 Farm Serv (Ind)
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Source Information:
Dwelling Noddle Hill
Census Place Sutton & Stoneferry, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342146
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4746 / 15
Page Number 24
Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Sutton

1881 Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Samuel BLASHILL Master (Head) M Male 47 Sutton, York, England Master (Munic)
Jane BLASHILL Matron (Wife) M Female 47 Thorpe Basset, York, England Matron
Frederick BLASHILL Son Male 10 Hull, York, England
Kate BLASHILL Daur Female 8 Hull, York, England
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Source Information:
Institution "Hull Workhouse" Anlaby Road
Census Place Kingston-upon-Hull, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342154
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4780 / 96
Page Number 1
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton


Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
Blashill Samuel Sculcoates 9d 282
Fish Elizabeth Sculcoates 9d 282
Grindell George Henry Sculcoates 9d 282
Piercy Jane Sculcoates 9d 282

I don't know if the following are relevant:
Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%)
Blashill Samuel Sculcoates 9d 173
Dawson Charles John Sculcoates 9d 173
Fewster Elizabeth Sculcoates 9d 173
Fewster Rachel Sculcoates 9d 173
[sisters?]

Births Sep 1863 (>99%)
BLASHILL Rachel Tewster Sculcoates 9d 121

Deaths Sep 1863 (>99%)
BLASHILL Rachel Sculcoates 9d 93

Deaths Dec 1863 (>99%)
BLASHILL Rachel Forester Sculcoates 9d 87


I think the 2 MJ's are cousins - maybe some can post the 1851 census for:

HO107 /2360 10 12 BRASHILL, Henry Sculcoates b abt 1806

Here's that 1851:

BRASHILL, Henry Head Married M 45 1806 Farmer Preston Yorkshire Holderness
BRASHILL, Mary Wife Married F 45 1806 Sutton Hull Yorkshire
BRASHILL, Henry Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Farmer's Son Sutton Hull Yorkshire
BRASHILL, Samuel Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Farmer's Son Sutton Hull Yorkshire
BRASHILL, George Son Unmarried M 13 1838 Farmer's Son Sutton Hull Yorkshire
BRASHILL, Francis Son M 11 1840 Scholar Sutton Hull Yorkshire
BRASHILL, Hudson Son M 9 1842 Scholar Sutton Hull Yorkshire
BRASHILL, Mary Ann Daughter F 7 1844 Scholar Sutton Hull Yorkshire
BRASHILL, Richard Son M 5 1846 Scholar Sutton Hull Yorkshire
KNOWLES, Ester Servant Widow F 66 1785 House Servant Rimswell Yorkshire
NORTHGREAVES, Eliza Servant F 13 1838 House Servant Burstwick Yorkshire
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Registration District: Sculcoates
Civil Parish: Sutton

Address: North Field, Sutton County: Yorkshire (East riding)

Derek, what certificates do you have?

If you've got William Gilchrist's marriage certificate can you give us ALL of the information on it, e.g. occupations, addresses, witnesses.

To be honest, the only way to unravel this tangled web would be to buy both Mary Jane's birth and marriage certificates and cross match everything. But, that's 37 quid and Christmas is near ......

Derek, Mary Jane baptised 25 Feb 1868 was NOT the daughter of George and Catherine as you stated above:

MARY JANE BLASHILL
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 FEB 1868 Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: SAMUEL BLASHILL
Mother: JANE

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
(From Family Search)

Now, don't tell me they both got baptised on the same day!!!

Now, this is a submitted record so accuracy can't be vouched for:

Mary Jane Blashill Female

Event(s):
Birth: 17 JAN 1868
Christening: 25 FEB 1868 Kingston Upon Hull,East Riding, Yorkshire, England
Death: 1951
Burial: Penetanguishene, Simco, Ontario

Other Event(s):
Census: 1881 Sutton &, Stoneferry, Yorkshire, England

Marriages:
Spouse: William Gilchrist
Marriage: 06 MAY 1899 Hull,East Riding, , Yorkshire, England

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

IF this is right then it confirms it was Mary Jane, daughter of Samuel and Jane who married William Gilchrist.

Hi Marie..thanks again..I have all the early stuff including the fact that GEORGE BASHILL..the real one!! lol was the son of Henry and Mary..as you show on 1851........trouble is that the George Bashill 1911 father of mary jane Slingsby nee Bashill..also has parents Henry and Mary..

Sending for the Birth Certs for Mary Jane Bashill will not clear the water..but i have downloaded the applications for the marriages of Mary Jane Bashill to both Slingsby and Gilchrist..which will show fathers and rtheir occupations......at a cost of £18.!!.........any bets they are both Registrars???????
A little bit of fantasy here...was George Blashill 1838 a bigamist!!......I thin I've lost it!! lol

Derek.

Here's another submitted record, this time the submitter has put his name and address on (haven't posted it here) and there are sources available:

Mary Jane BLASHILL Compact Disc #135 Pin #4615270 Pedigree
Sex: F
Event(s)
Birth: 11 Jan 1868
Christening: 3 Feb 1868 Hull, Yorkshire, England
Death: Unknown

Parents
Father: George BLASHILL Disc #135 Pin #4615238
Mother: Catherine PURDON Disc #135 Pin #4615239
Marriage(s)
Spouse: Thomas Alfred SLINGSBY Disc #135 Pin #4615271
Marriage: 5 Nov 1895 Kingston Chapel, Yorkshire
Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 135

You'll have to look this up on Family Search if you want further info.