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EMMA HERBERT c 1893

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Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Dec 2011 21:18

I am pretty sure this is the Emma Herbert I am looking for

1901 census
Emma Herbert- 8 -Yorks Denaby Main -West Riding Yorkshire -Brayton Entire - Juvenile

Please can someone post me the details of the household in 1901 and also 1911 if possible
Thanks.

Vera

Vera Report 12 Dec 2011 21:20

1901

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CLARKE, Charles Head Married M 51 1850 Foreman On Farm
Coniby
Lincolnshire VIEW
CLARKE, Ellen Wife Married F 47 1854
Wendon
Essex VIEW
HERBERT, Emma Grand Daughter F 8 1893
Denaby Main
Yorkshire VIEW
PENROSE, Walter Servant Single M 22 1879 Carter On Farm
Burn
Yorkshire VIEW

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Piece:
4427 Folio:
5 Page:
2 Registration District:
Selby

Civil Parish:
Brayton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Chapel Lane, Brayton County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

Regards Vera

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Dec 2011 21:25

Old enough to be married by 1911

What other info do you have

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Dec 2011 21:31

Not with Charles and Ellen Clarke in 1911

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Dec 2011 21:38

Emma married in 1918 in Doncaster.

Waiting for marriage cert to see if she names her father.
Was hoping she was with parents in census. Apparently not.

Thanks for looking.

Vera

Vera Report 12 Dec 2011 21:44

Just thought I would show you this Emma.....although I understand she married under the maiden name Herbert in 1918. The birth place got my attention. I found a marriage for an Ida Clarke to a John Whittaker.

1911

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THOMSON, Thomas Head Married M 41 1870 Collier Filling Underground Durham Winlaton VIEW
>>>>>>WHITTAKER, John Boarder Married M 28 1883 Glass Blower Yorks Denaby Main VIEW
>>>>>>WHITTAKER, Emma Boarder Married F 20 1891 Yorks Denaby Main VIEW
MANGHAM, Ernest Visitor Married M 27 1884 Collier Filling Underground Yorks West Melton VIEW
MANGHAM, Sarah Ann Wife Married
4 years F 28 1883 Yorks Swinton VIEW
MANGHAM, John Thomas Son M 3 1908 Yorks South Hemsal VIEW
MANGHAM, Elijah Son M 1 1910 Yorks Cudworth VIEW
MANGHAM, Charles Ernest Son M 0 (2 MONTH) 1911 Yorks Denaby Main VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28164 Reference:
RG14PN28164 RG78PN1609 RD512 SD2 ED8 SN289

Registration District:
Doncaster Sub District:
Barnbrough Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Conisbrough

Address:
42 Firbeck St Denaby Main Rotherham County:
Yorkshire (West riding

Regards Vera

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Dec 2011 21:46

Name: Emma Boylan
Birth Date: 31 Jan 1893
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1974
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Doncaster
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2b
Page: 1099


She could have been living anywhere in 1911

Vera

Vera Report 12 Dec 2011 21:48

The Emma and John Whittaker on the 1911are not correct....I found a marriage for them at least I think it is them her maiden name is Hanson.

Regards Vera

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Dec 2011 21:50

Thanks for that but I think this is that marriage, not my Emma Herbert...


Marriages Sep 1910 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Allinson Minnie Doncaster 9c 1474
Foulds Fergus Doncaster 9c 1474
Hanson Emma J Doncaster 9c 1474
Whittaker John Doncaster 9c 1474

but I can well see where you're coming from.
Cheers

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Dec 2011 21:51

Do you have access to Ancestry ?

Service Record

Name: Arthur Boylan
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Age at enlistment: 21
Residence: 13 Ballow St Deconby, Rotherte
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: ??16
Regiment Name: West Riding Regiment
Number of images: 10

Vera

Vera Report 12 Dec 2011 21:52

These are Emma 's grandparents in 1891


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CLARK, Charles Head Married M 41 1850 Agricultural Labourer
Glentham
Lincolnshire VIEW
CLARK, Ellen Wife Married F 36 1855
Wendens Ambo
Essex VIEW
CLARK, Ann Daughter Single F 15 1876
Rothwell
Yorkshire
Haigh VIEW
CLARK, Herbert Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Brayton
Yorkshire VIEW
CLARK, Frank Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Brayton
Yorkshire VIEW
HERBERT, George T Servant Single M 20 1871 Farm Servant
Wistow
Yorkshire VIEW

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Piece:
3876 Folio:
8 Page:
3 Registration District:
Selby

Civil Parish:
Brayton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Brayton Hall, Brayton County:
Yorkshire (West Riding)

Regards Vera

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Dec 2011 21:53

1911 just in case it comes in handy

HIGGINS, George Head Married M 55 1856 Pick Sharpener Yorks Rotherham VIEW
HIGGINS, Florence Wife Second Married
9 years F 44 1867 Yorks Rotherham VIEW
HIGGINS, Leonard Son M 8 1903 Yorks Rotherham VIEW
HIGGINS, Doris Daughter F 6 1905 Yorks Rotherham VIEW
HERBERT, Chorlotte Dada F 12 1899 School Yorks Rotherham VIEW
HERBERT, Emma Daughter Single F 18 1893 Waitress In Restaurant Yorks Rotherham VIEW
HERBERT, John William Son Single M 21 1890 Labourer In Mine Yorks Rotherham VIEW
HALE, John William Boarder Single M 36 1875 Miner Coal Hewer Yorks Rotherham VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28090 Reference:
RG14PN28090 RG78PN1604 RD511 SD3 ED17 SN9

Registration District:
Rotherham Sub District:
North West Rotherham Enumeration District:
17 Parish:
Rotherham

Address:
12 Ewers Road Kimberworth Rotherham



Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
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Herbert Florence Rotherham 9c 1007
Higgins George Rotherham 9c 1007
Stevens Frank Robert Rotherham 9c 1007
Wilkes Catherine Heap Rotherham 9c 1007

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Dec 2011 21:57

GB
No afraid I don't have access to Ancestry so that info is very welcome.
Thanks a lot

And thanks Vera for the 1891.
I wonder if George Herbert is Emma's dad ?

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Dec 2011 22:02

The Emma born Rotherham is not mine I don't think.
She lived all her life in and around Doncaster

Vera

Vera Report 12 Dec 2011 22:06

Possible birth
Births Mar 1893 (>99%)
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Herbert Emma Doncaster 9c 773


Regards Vera

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Dec 2011 22:12

Yes I am hoping that is the right birth cert ( it's on my short list)
I am just cautious because she may have been born to single mum who later married a Herbert and changed Emma's name.

Then again she may have been born Herbert to unmarried mother who later married

for instance...

Marriages Dec 1894 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clark John Thomas -Doncaster 9c 1309
Herbert Martha - Doncaster 9c 1309
Smith Martha Doncaster 9c 1309
Wheatley Francis Joseph Doncaster 9c 1309


Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 12 Dec 2011 23:01

This could be George Herbert lodger in 1891

HERBERT, George Head Married M 40 1871 Colliery Traffic Manager Wistow Yorks VIEW
HERBERT, Annie Wife Married
19 years F 39 1872 Huddersfield Yorks VIEW
HERBERT, Elsie Daughter F 6 1905 School Denaby Main Yorks VIEW
HERBERT, George Son M 3 1908 Denaby Main Yorks VIEW
HERBERT, Sydney Son M 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Doncaster Yorks VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28209 Reference:
RG14PN28209 RG78PN1610 RD512 SD3 ED20 SN308

Registration District:
Doncaster Sub District:
Doncaster Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
Wheatley

Address:
75 Stanhope Road Wheatley Doncaster County:
Yorkshire (West rid

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Dec 2011 23:13

married 19 yrs in 1911 so this is the only likely marriage to a Clark, but the location doesn't make sense !

Marriages Dec 1892 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CLARK Ann Wandsworth 1d 1126
HERBERT George Thomas Wandsworth 1d 1126
Starks Sidney Wandsworth 1d 1126
Stinton Amelia Wandsworth 1d 1126

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 12 Dec 2011 23:31

I saw that marriage and agree but then you could say the same for Ellen 1855 Wendens Ambo Essex living in Yorkshire
Charles 1850 born Lincolnshire

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Dec 2011 23:43

I notice George is George T in 1891 so it's a good bet.
Thanks for the 1911 census, pity no Emma.

Am wondering if this is her in 1911, maybe working away from home...

HERBERT EMMA - F - 1893 - 18 - Hinckley Leicestershire