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I'm from the UK and am trying to find information on my great-grandfather, Herbert Wiseman. Herbert served in the Australian Imperial Force in WW1 and came to the UK where he met my great-grandmother. I have obtained his service record from Australia, but can find no more about him. His record shows that he ws 36 when he enlisted in 1915. His next of kin was given as his mother - Rachael Wiseman - and their address was 'corner of Firth Street and Forrest Road, Arncliffe, Sydney, NSW'. His record shows that he returned to Sydney in 1920. However, I can find no further information on Herbert or his mother. Does anyone know anything about them or can anyone makes any suggestions of where/how I can look for information.

Many thanks

Couldn't see a birth for Herbert, but did find this:-

5162/1876 WISEMAN MAUDE INA ADELE HENRY PARKER RACHAEL REDFERN

.....maybe not relevant but only birth coming up for NSW with mother Rachael?

Thanks, this could be relevant & is worth me investigating

This death would go with the above parents names:-

10736/1899 WISEMAN EDYE P HENRY P RACHEL REDFERN

and this one:-

4378/1900 WISEMAN ARCHIBALD H HENRY P RACHEL SYDNEY

.........now living in Sydney!

I will have to try to find a marriage record for Henry Parker Wiseman & Rachael. Do you know what information is found on Australian birth/marriage/death certs? i.e. is address recorded - if so it might help me work out if these are the right people.

Many thanks

the following is the link to where I found the above info:-

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm

........if you want to have a look yourself as I'm off to bed now!

Good Hunting
Catherine

............and this is the link to give you more links to other areas in Australia:-

http://www.coraweb.com.au/bdmindex.htm

Trees on Ancestry give Herbert's parents as Henry Parker Wiseman and Rachael Williams ?
Henry Parker's birthyear is shown as 1841 Australia - no dates for Rachael and unfortunately no other data for Herbert other than his spouse and 1 child which you will know about

Not the only child. From http://www.awm.gov.au:

Roll of Honour - Clarence Wiseman
Service number: 1863
Rank: Private
Unit: 35th Battalion (Infantry)
Service: Australian Army
Conflict: 1914-1918

Date of death: 11 June 1917

Cemetery or memorial details: Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial, Belgium

War Grave Register notes: WISEMAN, Pte. Clarence, 1863. 35th Bn. 11th June, 1917. Age 20. Son of Henry Parker Wiseman and Rachel Wiseman. Native of Sydney.

Source: AWM145 Roll of Honour cards, 1914-1918 War, Army

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From the Sydney Morning Herald, January 18, 1872
On the 9th instant, at her residence, Redfern, the wife of HENRY PARKER WISEMAN, of a son.

From rootsweb: (There is more information about Thomas Henry Wiseman)

Thomas Henry Wiseman (b. c1812?, in County Cork, Ireland; d. c1900?, in Australia; m-c1840? at Sydney, Australia to Anne Hardum, who was a native of County Cork; Thomas was a marine engineer and principal engineer aboard the SS James Watt; In c1834 he immigrated from London, England to Sydney, Australia.)
A Henry Parker Wiseman (b. c1841? at Sydney, Australia.)
B Thomas Henry Wiseman, Jr. (b. c1843? at Sydney, Australia.)
C Kate Gertrude Wiseman (b. c1846? at Sydney, Australia.)
D Edye Marmion Wiseman (b. c1852? at Sydney, Australia.)

marriage Sydney district NSW
Henry Parker Wiseman to RachEl Williams 1871 ref 438

Death Redfern district NSW
Henry Parker Wiseman 1903 ref 11567
Father - Thomas
Mother - Ann

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Parents: Henry Parker Wiseman & Rachel

NAME: Archibald H Wiseman
BIRTH: 1872 - Redfern, New South Wales

NAME: Edye Parker Wiseman
BIRTH: 1873 - Redfern, New South Wales
NAME: Edye P Wiseman
DEATH: 1899 - Redfern, New South Wales

NAME: Maude Ina Adele Wiseman
BIRTH: 1876 - Redfern, New South Wales

NAME: Clarence P Wiseman
BIRTH: 1897 - Redfern, New South Wales

Hi Sarah,

On Australian Marriage Certificates, there is usually a lot of information -

Where born, ages when married, occupations, also if previously married and if there are any children, as well as parents names, parents occupations, where born and if applicable how long in the Colony.

There are a number of internet transcription sites where you can purchase certificates cheaper, something like-

www.joymurrin.com.au

Below are a number of other children born to Henry & Rachel/Rachael

Reg No/Yr Surname Given Names Fathers Name Mothers Names District
4330/1872 Wiseman Archibald H Henry P Rachel Redfern
359/1881 Wiseman Ina Gertrude Heny P Rachel Sydney
253/1883 Wiseman Blanche M Henry P Rachel Sydney
1225/1886 Wiseman Harold S Henry P Rachael Sydney
1649/1878 Wiseman Oscar Eveleigh Henry Parker Rachel Sydney

Marriage of Ina
Reg No/Yr Surname Given Names Spouses Surname Spouses Names District
12410/1920 Tighe Henry Wiseman Ina G Rockdale

Deaths
Reg No/Yr Surname Given Names Fathers Name Mothers Name District
21961/1954 Tighe Ina Gertrude Henry Baker Rachael Penrith
18937/1928 Wiseman Harold S Henry P Rachel Randwick
4378/1900 Wiseman Archibald H Henry P Rachel S
Joy

Sarah,

?????Possible death of Rachel

Reg No/Yr Surname Given Names Fathers Name Mothers Name District
10392/1926 Wiseman Rachel Joseph Louisa Penrith

Joy

Marriage, death & birth of a daughter

7267/1909 Gibson Johnston Wiseman Blanche M Sydney
15357/1911 Gibson Blanche M Henry P Rachael Marrickville

31111/1910 Gibson Valda R Johnston Blanche M Randwick

Joy

from IGI (submitted entry)

Henry Thomas Wiseman - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 1843 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Death: 1843 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Father: Thomas Henry Wiseman
xxxx Mother: Ann Hardum xxxx

Marmion Wiseman - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 1852 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Death: 1852 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Kate Gertrude Wiseman - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 1849 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Death: Ashfield, New South Wales, Australia
Burial: 17 SEP 1929 Rookwood, New South Wales, Australia

Just for you info only, is this the information the OziBird found at rootsweb?

Looks like 4 registrations for Henry T, ???

Reg No/Yr Surname Given Names Fathers Name Mothers Name

V1843620 45A/1843 Wiseman Henry T Thomas Anne
V1843939 48/1843 Wiseman Henry T Thomas Anne

V18415441 45B/1841 Wiseman Henry T Thomas M Anne
V18414856 47/1841 Wiseman Henry T Thomas M Anne

V18521248 51/1852 Wiseman Marmion Thomas M Anne

There were 2 deaths of a Thomas Wiseman born about 1812

V18551413 43A/1855 Wiseman Thomas Age 44 Sydney
1923/1888 Wiseman Thomas H Age 76 Died Sydney Sydney

The above were also found at http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au

Further to Catherine's information,

Marriage

828/1879 Mitchell Leslie R Wiseman Kate G Sydney

children born

2153/1880 Mitchell Marmion Leslie Leslie Ronald Kate Gertrude Sydney
906/1882 Mitchell Ivy Leslie R Kate G Sydney
4382/1884 Mitchell Cyril H Leslie Kate Balmain
4130/1886 Mitchell Myrtle Leslie R Kate G Balmain
13014/1890 Mitchell Olive Leslie R Kate G Glebe

Joy

??Another son to Thomas & Ann

deaths

9507/1894 Wiseman Edye M Thomas H Ann Newtown

13071/1929 Mitchell Kate G Thomas H Ann Ashfield

Have been unable to find a birth of Kate Gertrude on nsw bdm

Joy