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John harrison b 1884 Co Armagh married Elizabeth Young in Co Antrim 27/6/1908 on the cert states husband townland/street and given as Clydebank Scotland, does that mean he was living in scotland at the time.

Can not find them on the irish or scottish census, i do know they had 3 children Margaret b 1909 Elizabeth b1910 maybe ireland & May b 1915 greenock scotland.

regards
sue

Is this his daughter Margaret with her Grandparents in 1911 please?

Residents of a house 19 in White Abbey (White Abbey, Antrim)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Young James 67 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Antrim Garden General Labour Read writ - Married - - - -
Young Isabella 67 Female Wife Presbyterian Antrim - Read writ - Married - 47 4 4
Young Maggie 44 Female Daughter Presbyterian Antrim Linen Waver Read - Single - - - -
Harrison Maggie 1 Female Boarder Presbyterian Antrim - Cannot read - - - - - -

I know Elizabeth parents were called James/Martha according to marriage cert.

sorry mother called margaret

Same family in 1901

Residents of a house 22 in Factory Street (Whitehouse, Antrim)

Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses

Young Margreat 30 Female Daughter Presbyterian Antrim Linen Waver Read - Not Married -
Young Lizzie 16 Female Daughter Presbyterian Co Antrim Linen Waver Read and write - Not Married -
Young James 55 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Antrim Garden Labourer Read and write - Married -
Young Isabella 54 Female Wife Presbyterian Antrim - Read and write - Married -

According to the marriage cert Elizabeth's townland/street given as Whiteabbey is that any use ? sorry dont have much to go on, i believe she was known as Lizzie her middle name Davidson/davison

That 1911 census gives the family's address as House 19 in White Abbey.

The 1901 census for the same family show that they have a daughter, Lizzie aged 16 years living with them at Factory Street, Whitehouse.

I think that it is the correct family. So really your are looking the census for John and his wife Elizabeth (Lizzie) with their daughter Elizabeth as I think that that is their daughter Margaret visiting her grandparents in 1911.

Irish marriage certs do not give the mother's names on them

Just looked back on marriage cert, it was the wifes witness called Margaret Young, sorry so it may be looking good what you have found, so if magaret was with her grandparents on 1911 where was John/Elizabeth and child Elizabeth

What was the details for John on the marriage certificate please?

Looking at your first post, it looks that he may have been involved the shipbuilding industry. What age was he and what was his father's name and occupation please?

Possible marriage for parents
James Young married Isabella Mcateer 4th October 1864 Ahoghill Third Presbyterian Church, Ballymena, Co antrim

Info on cert for john harrison given as full age occupation labourer.

father called James occupation labourer, denomination presbyterian

Maura,

Could be a possibe marriage

Where did you get his birth year and birthplace from please?

Have you found him on any other census records?

Do you have the birth certificate of his daughter born in Scotland?

John Harrison is my grandfather & was b 12/6/1884 Ballyhannon Co Armagh & died 1951 Greenock Scotland. i never new him.

He remarried in 1917 to my grandmother.

I have him on the 1901 irish census with his parents james/margaret & siblings james & thomas in portadown armagh living in 16 henry street, he is not living with his parents on 1911 census

No cert, May b 19/4/1915 found this on scotlands people

I have reference that john was a gunner in the RFA when he remarried but could of joined earlier

Neither John or his parents & siblings are coming up on the irish 1911 census, maybe the whole family moved to Scotland.

Maura,

I found john's parents on 1911 census if correct living at 7 junction row portadown his mother's name down as magarett with a son thomas

Maura...Cross ref. the Henry St details with this one...same family...

Residents of a house 7 in Junction Row (Portadown Urban, Armagh)

Harrison James 50 Male Head of Family Ch Ireland County Down Weaver Read wright B English Married - 27 - -
Harrison Magarett 50 Female Wife Church Ireland Weaver Cannot read B English Married - 27 4 3
Harrison Thomas 19 Male Son Church Ireland Weaver

Margarets age on 1901 down as 65 should be 45 (See original)

I then cross ref with Ulster Covenant....

John Harrison gave address as above but signed in Wellington St Glasow
Thomas Harrison ...same details.

James jnr (1901) is actually William James....not found him in Glasow

What is the Ulster Covenant? and what does it all mean.

So John and Thomas were actually in Glasgow when irish census were done & gave the Junction Row address in portadown or i;m i getting mixed up
sue

Cookie....No you are not getting mixed up....!1
This is the link for the Ulster Covenant.....you can read about it...

(If you have the actual MC cross ref Johns Signature against the one signed by John Harrison on the UC.....)

http://www.proni.gov.uk

Open the site and on upper right hand side you will see a list ..click on Ulster Covenant...

EDIT.....My mistake John signed.....

Harrison John 17 Junction Row Portadown Scotland: Kilmarnock Port Glasgow "Orange Hall"
Thomas' signature is below ...also Orange Hall