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help please.
my father Alan KC Officer b1929 has a sister Patricia b1942(?) his mothers maiden name is Warne. Patricia's is listed as Hillman.
I have found a Hilda Hillman, in 1911 census, stepdaughter to Elijah and Harriet.but have not found birth certificate or marriage to become Warne, then Officer.
I know I'm probably missing somthing really obvious......

Marriages Sep 1920
Officer Alexander Warne W.Ham 4a 408
Warne Hilda G Officer W.Ham 4a 408

??

Births Sep 1893 (>99%)
Warne Hilda Gertrude Poplar 1c 621

You say his mother's name was Warne but seem to be looking for Hilda Hillman - have you got it back to front?
Jan

Dpo you know when she died? Not sure about this one, however can find no marriage for he as Hilda G. Officer to a Hillman.

Name: Hilda G Officer
Birth Date: abt 1894
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1959
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Bury St Edmunds
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 868

Just to satisfy the researchers:

Name: OFFICER, Alan K C
Registration District: Help Dartford
County: Kent
Year of Registration: 1929
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Warne
Volume No: Help 2A
Page No: Help 978

Patricia's birth in 1942, also Dartford, does say mmn Millman (not Hillman)

EDIT probably the wrong Patricia.

Are you sure Patricia was his sister?

Name: OFFICER, Albert E
Registration District: Help Dartford
County: Kent
Year of Registration: 1939
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Millman
Volume No: Help 2A
Page No: Help 2517

Name: MILLMAN, Dorothy M
Registration District: Dartford
County: Kent
Year of Registration: 1939
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Officer
Volume No: 2A
Page No: 2517

Births Officer, mmn Warne:

OFFICER Ronald E E England Kent, Dartford 1921 VIEW

OFFICER Patrick R England Kent, Dartford 1927 VIEW

OFFICER Alan K C England Kent, Dartford 1929 VIEW

OFFICER Gillian J England Kent, Dartford 1936 VIEW

Perhaps he meant he had a brother Pat?

your all so quick!
I have got AKC Officer as mother Hilda Warne, but have recently been told .. by a cousin (just found through here) that he also had a sister called Patricia, I know he had a bro Patrick.......
when i looked at records she Patricia has Millman... sorry silly typo error... please forgive.... as mothers maiden name.... could she be child by father or adopted?

Patricia's brother?

Name: OFFICER, Paul N
Registration District: Help Dartford
County: Kent
Year of Registration: 1940
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Millman
Volume No: Help 2A
Page No: Help 1049

EDIT - probably not the right family

I am wary of saying more, as these could be living people. Have PMd netty.

another brother?!
I have Edmond, Patrick,and Ronald and a sister Gillian......
my recently aquired cousin tells me of a sister Patricia who died recently....
will look to see if another marriage with Hilda

I would say the death of Hilda that Brummiejan found ties up with this one for Alexander:

Name: OFFICER, Alexander
Registration District: Help Ipswich
County: Suffolk
Year of Registration: 1970
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Date of Birth: 23 November 1894
Volume No: 4B
Page No: 2415

I think your new-found cousin might not be right about that sister.

thank you,
I will try to contact her again...... her mother is still alive so hopefully will get more info..
your all stars!!

Hi all,
do we think Patrick R was a misheard Patricia......??
will send for birth certificate I think....
ta for your help so far..
Annette

Patrick and Patricia are two different births. I can find no connection yet between Alexander and Albert E - was hoping they were brothers.

I don't think the birth cert of either Patrick or Patricia will tell you anything that we don't already know from the bmds. Not impossible, but unlikely.

Ask your 'cousin' for documentary proof of his/her statements about 'Patricia' being Alan's 'sister'

Common sense dictates that she is the product of the 1939 marriage, posted above.

???????????her father's death

Name: Albert Edward Officer
Birth Date: 28 Jun 1912
Date of Registration: May 1996
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Register number: B28
District and Subdistrict: 2221B
Entry number: 91

And birth.................

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Officer Albert E Ashdown Dartford 2a 1168

Albert's parents..........he was an only child

Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%
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ASHDOWN Laura Woolwich 1d 1871
OFFICER Albert Edward Woolwich 1d 1871

1911 census - household transcription
Person: OFFICER, Albert Edward
Address: 1 Carey Cotts Lion Road Bexleyheath


OFFICER, Albert Edward Head Married M 38 1873 Butler Domestic Northamptonshire Weeden VIEW
OFFICER, Laura Wife Married F 37 1874 Kent Bexleyheath VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3729 Reference:
RG14PN3729 RG78PN141 RD43 SD1 ED9 SN193

Registration District:
Dartford Sub District:
Bexley Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Bexley

Address:
1 Carey Cotts Lion Road Bexleyheath County:
Kent

There would have been no point in looking for a further marriage for Hilda.......her maiden name wouldn't change, no matter how many times she married

Thank you Flick,
awaiting reply from cousin still...
previous email says ... Patricia was older than AKC ?????
but will save this info for now!
Annette