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The name has different spellings: Westnage, Wastnage

John was born in 1828 in London. Father unknown.
Harriet possibly born 1806, location unknown. There is a 1841 census record in Charlton cum Woolwich but we aren't sure it's her.

John's life records are known but we are looking for his father and where Harriet came from.

Thank you.

Posted for Christine by Rhoda @ WDYTYA live

If he knew who his father as, the details will be on John's marriage cert......assuming he married.

That info hasn't been provided

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John Vaughan Westnedge
Name: John Vaughan Westnedge
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Gilbert
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Feb 1854
Parish: Charterhouse St Thomas
Borough: Islington
Father Name: John Westnedge
Spouse Father Name: James Gilbert
Register Type: Parish Register

Is this him?

Marriages Mar 1854 (>99%)
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Cliffe Sarah East London 1c 68
Cunningham William East London 1c 68
GILBERT Elizabeth E London 1c 68
WESTNEDGE John Vaughan E London 1c 68

1841

Name: Harriet Westnage
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Charlton Next Woolwich
Hundred: Lathe of Sutton at Hone Blackheath
County/Island: Kent
Country: England


Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Plumstead
William Sloggeh 40
James Geloez 30
Mary Smith 30
Mary Hash 40
Eliza Morgan 30
Harriet Westnage 35
Emma Leach 15

You won't find his father - unless Harriet pursued him for the child's upkeep

Name: John Vaughan Westnedge
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 20 Jun 1847
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MARY LE STRAND,WESTMINSTER,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 12 Sep 1828
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Hariett Westnedge
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04289-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 572509
Reference Number:

The 'father' he named when he married was obviously fictitious

There may be a clue in the name Vaughan, but it would have to be thoroughly researched.

There is no record of any kind for Harriet on freebmd

The surname - in all its guises - seems to originate in Yorkshire

Name: John Vaughan Westredge
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1847
Baptism Date: 20 Jun 1847
Mother's name: Harriett Westredge
Parish or Poor Law Union: Westminster St Mary Le Strand
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

(very faint image, looks like illegitimate, written at side)

Chris :)

Hi Chris - Can you tell us where you found the details above please? Very interested in this info you have found. Thanks

Only Chris?

Hi Flick - Sorry, this sounded very unappreciative. The original poster has returned and is particularly keen to see the image that says he is illegitimate so we are trying to find out where the information was found. All information is being very well received!

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

(from above, Ancestry website)

Chris :)

I agree with Chris that Illegitimate is written int he margin


That is actually a very interesting baptism entry in the Parish Register!

It notes that he was born September 1828, but was not baptised until 20 June 1847


and there is a note in the column where the Vicar signed regarding a Joseph Edwards, Mill Engineer ...... but it is very hard to read.

It might be possible to save the image to your computer, and then do a reverse image (ie white on black) and see if you can read it.



sylvia

Just to enlighten you........

The fact that only the mother's name is recorded is sufficient evidence of the child's illegitimacy

In early years, the mother was considered hardly worth mentioning - if you look at 18th century baptisms, you will find that it was far from unusual for the mother's name to be omitted completely. Only the father got a mention

The info I posted was from familysearch site,where the DOB is clearly shown

found thank you

Nick

Thanks for your pm's much appriciated...but

Could you reply on the threads please by adding a comment at the bottom of all the postings

PM received too, have also advised Nick to come back to 'Thread'.

I could make out the address as Hollis Street, Clare Market, but not writing in last column, looks like Sylvia had a go...think Vaughan is in there somewhere!. Did notice on the Marriage image, the Curate was a Samuel Vaughan...(sends your eyeballs a bit boggley after a while, lol)

Chris :)

I also got a pm from Nick


he is going to try the reverse image as I suggested above, it might possibly produce something more readable!

Lol, let's hope so!, and he lets us know!.

Chris :)

I believe it says "Joseph Edwards Mill ???? (not certain it is engineer), father as certified to me.

Then signed J.F. Denham M.A., Rector.

Dea x