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Hi just some thing or anything about Charles O Cave born 1893 Poplar.
Parents
James Thomas cave born 26.07.1857
Emma Maria Deleve about born 1870
This was James second marriage J F M 1888
Going on the 1911 census he could have been training to be a Enginner?
His fathers first wife was Jane Brind born 1862
Could of had siblings
James 1882 Child from first marriage of James his father to Jane
Jane 1883 Child from first marriage of James his father to Jane
Ethel 1896
Edith 1890
Did he marry or travel over seas anything.
Thankyou from Tracie

Name: Charles Ormond Cave
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1893
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1972
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 1858

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Charles Ormond Cave Name: Charles Ormond Cave
Document Year: 1919
Regimental Number: 280057
Regiment Name: Royal Army Service Corps
Number of images: 16


Name: Charles Ormond Cave
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1893
Baptism Date: 10 Aug 1893
Father's Name: James Thomas Cave
Mother's name: Emma Maria Cave
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bromley St Leonard St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Not seeing any marriage for a Charles O Cave I'm affraid

1901

Name: Charles B Cave
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James T Cave
Mother's name: Emma M Cave
Gender: Male
Where born: Bow, London, England

Civil parish: Bromley
Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows Bow Common
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
James T Cave 42
Emma M Cave 31
James Cave 19
Jane Cave 19
Edith M Cave 19
Charles B Cave 9 >>>>O on the image

Trac


The image of the 1911 Census does indeed say Apprenticed Engineer ..... which means he was doing an apprenticeship (training).



This is probably Charles Ormond

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about Charles O Cave

Name: Charles O Cave
Regiment or Corps: W Cyc C, Army Service Corps, London Regiment
Regimental Number: 298, M280087, M280087


He got the Victory and British Medals, and the 1915 Star for service in France

This is information on those medals .....................

1914-15 Star was awarded for service in France or Flanders (Belgium) between 23 November 1914 and 31 December 1915, or for service in any theater between 5 August 1914 and 31 December 1915


Allied Victory Medal (Victory Medal) was awarded for service in any operational theater between 5 August 1914 and 11 November 1918. It was issued to individuals who received the 1914 and 1914-15 Stars and to most individuals who were issued the British War Medal. The medal was also awarded for service in Russia (1919-1920) and post-war mine clearance in the North Sea (1918-1919).


British War Medal was awarded to both servicemen and civilians that either served in a theater of war, or rendered service overseas between 5 August 1914 and 11 November 1918. It was also awarded for service in Russia, and post-war mine clearance in the Baltic, the Black Sea, and the Caspian Sea between 1919 and 1920.




sylvia

looking at that WW1 Pension Record that Jax found ................

his address at discharge on 10 March 1919 was ...........

20 Odessa Rd
Forest Gate


He spent 14 months in France as an infantryman, and had a Shrapnel wound through the right hand, received in April 1916. Left him with broken bones, little gripping power, and little use of fingers




sylvia

It might be worth your while to buy the death certificate, and see who registered his death.



as Jax said, he does not seem to have married.




sylvia

Thankyou to all of you like the say ask and you will get lotz of answers.
I will apply for his death certificate i am realy greatfull for the help and information you all give. Regards from tracie

on his military records he married -

Minnie Maud SLATER on 31st March 1918

Address - Guildford Road, Ash, Surrey

(image 1992 of 4623)




looks to have been mis-transcribed


Marriages Mar 1918 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cave Charles W Slater W.Ham 4a 97
Slater Minnie M Cave W. Ham 4a 97

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Minnie Maud Cave
Birth Date: 26 Aug 1897
Date of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1973
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 2144

3 possible/probable children born

1919, 1921 and 1935 (West Ham)

Hmmmm

I went through those Army images it said there were 16 but that seems to be number 18

well done

jax

Good one, Choccie



In reading the Medical Records of Charles Ormond last night .......... I didn't go quite far enough


He was awarded the Military Medal 14-8-16 ........... posted in the London Gazette 11(??) - 9 -16

He married Minnie Maud Slater 31-8-18

Both occurred while he was based in Aldershot as a member of the 52 Company



sylvia

the Army records are for Charles Ormond Cave


20 Odessa Road, Forest Gate

Gun shot wound to the hand




perhaps someone else can have a look in case I'm wrong

looks like Tracie already has one of the children of the marriage (born 1921) if you go to 'Search Trees'

Choccy


I have been through them again ......... and found I hadn't gone quite far enough!


You are correct!


what a thing for jax and I to both miss that!




sylvia

Tracie

As Choccy has mentioned above

If you have one of his children in your tree why have you asked whether he married without mentioning this child. he must be attached to someone?

Hi Jax

Yes he is there in my tree am still not sure if he is the right Charles Cave.
the children are soo far apart I am try to find out if he is the son for sure of James Thomas Cave 1857 who was my G Grand fathers brother who was Charles William Cave born 19.08.1855 died 6.07.1923 with all the information yous have given me now i can go a head and order the certificates and they should be the right ones. I have order so many wrong certificates B.D.& M for this Cave family of mine i have shares in the company so i needed some more help and information .and just get it so wrong i just wanted to be sure this time I have looked and never came across his army stuff so thankyou for all the help . Regard from Tracie

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Charles Ormond Cave
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1893
Baptism Date: 10 Aug 1893
Father's Name: James Thomas Cave
Mother's Name: Emma Maria Cave
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bromley St Leonard St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers


born 24th July 1893
Occupation of father - Foreman Stoker

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Edith Maud Emma Cave
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1890
Baptism Date: 15 May 1890
Father's Name: James Thomas Cave
Mother's Name: Emma Maria Cave
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bromley St Leonard St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Mary, Bromley Saint Leonard, Register of baptisms, P88/MRY2, Item 010.


born 26th April 1890
Occupation - Foreman Stoker