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West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1907
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HOMER Florence E ASTON William M Dudley, St Luke Dudley Register Office 223/003/132

http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/

This is the one Jude and look at the address !!!!!!!!



GARBETT, Edward Head Married M 35 1876 Brass Worker Dudley Worc
GARBETT, Annie Wife Married 13 years F 33 1878 Dudley Worc
GARBETT, Joseph E Son M 12 1899 School Worcestershire
GARBETT, Thomas Eric Son M 5 1906 School Worcestershire Dudley
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17441 Reference:
RG14PN17441 RG78PN1067 RD372 SD4 ED18 SN77

Registration District:
Dudley Sub District:
Dudley Enumeration District:
18 Parish:
Dudley

Address:
24 Shedden St Dudley County:
Staffordshire


Dea x

Yes I looked at that marriage...found them in 1911 - and without paying for the census (drat that this is an area not yet transcribed on A) I think she is Annie in 1911...and the age is wrong (33 instead of 31) but then Edward - assuming same one gives his age in 1911 as 35 not 33!

It's a possible Jude but I was looking at this one:

1901 England Census
about Sarah A Garbett Name: Sarah A Garbett
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward Garbett
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Dudley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England


Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 144
Piece: 2746
Folio: 140
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Garbett 23 Brass fitter
Sarah A Garbett 21
Joseph E Garbett 2

at 3 Flood St., Dudley.

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2746; Folio: 140; Page: 27.

Marriages Dec 1897
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Dixon Annie Maria Dudley 6c 87
GARBETT Edward Dudley 6c 87 **
Homer Sarah Ann Dudley 6c 87 ****
Thomas Joseph Benjamin Dudley 6c 87

Dea x

safc - brilliant! There were two William Astons around the right time and place...and I plumped for William Harold H on the basis that the H might be for Homer....it is sooooooooooooo good when a hunch comes off!

\\Thanks! :-)

Name: William Harold Homer Aston
Gender: Unknown
Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Jan 1908
Baptism/Christening Place: Dudley, Worchestershire, England
Birth Date: 09 Dec 1907
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Millichop Aston
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Florence Eliza Aston
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01359-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 378789
Reference Number: v 110 p 175

To share my thoughts....I have a marriage in 1899 - Sarah A Homer to Emmanuel Edmund Purchase. I have found them in 1901 and 1911 - place of birth shown as Coseley Staffs - which is 3 miles from Dudley.

I trust there was something in your tea, Dea! :-)

OOOppps - It seems I was looking for the wrong sister - sorry all !! :-(

I have had my cup of tea now and am 'back on board' !!

Sarah Ann b c1880 ! ;-)

Dea x

I just love the way these threads grow... so there's no confusion (says she!!)

The family was:

Father: Joseph 1851 - 1901
Mother Charity (Oliver) Homer 1854 - 1933
Five children (all still living in 1911)
Sarah A(nn) 1880 - lose her after 1891. Several possibilities for marriage but have not been able to find her in 1901 or 1911 (YET)
Florence Eliza 1881 - 1962 (sorted)
Emily Louisa 1889
Lily Beatrice 1891
Charity Gertrude/Gertrude Charity 1894

Jude

Thanks Andy + safc.

This can't be the right Louie then as her father should be Joseph, not James??

Dea x

I think Louise (transcribed as Lainie in 1911) is actually Emily Louisa - Emily L in 1891 and 1901 censuses.

This family seemed to have the annoying trend of using their middle names from 1911 on!!!! Charity Gertrude is Gertrude, Emily Louisa is Louise

The missing older sister in 1911 is Sarah Ann. The last time I find her is in 1891. Perhaps on the basis of what I just said I should search for Ann Sarah :-)

Sarah Ann was born in 1880

Jude

1891?

1891 England Census
about James Wooldridge
Name: James Wooldridge
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lonie Wooldridge
Gender: Male
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: St Thomas
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2294
Folio: 130
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
James Wooldridge 29
Lonie Wooldridge 20
James J Wooldridge 2
Lilly Wooldridge 1
Mary Wooldridge 13
Mary A Jevons 15


Andy

Groom's Name: James Wooldridge
Groom's Birth Date: 1860
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 27
Bride's Name: Lo... Horner
Bride's Birth Date: 1869
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 18
Marriage Date: 18 Dec 1887
Marriage Place: St. Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Groom's Father's Name: Thomas Wooldridge
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: James Horner
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01529-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 378788
Reference Number: page 127 no. 254

Re: the missing older sister.

I believe on one of the census's I saw her on (can't remember which), but the image said LOUIE not LOUISE ??

This then would be her birth?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Louie Homer Name: Louie Homer
Date of registration: Apr-May-Jun 1872
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 144

and this a 'probable' marriage?

Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
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FLAVELL Selina Dudley 6c 71
***HOMER Louie Dudley 6c 71
REA William Arthur Dudley 6c 71
***WOOLDRIDGE James Dudley 6c 71


She did not marry William Rea!

I haven't found them yet after the marriage to confirm.

Dea x

Ah yes with you (both)

I have her in 1881 and it's definitely them (and therefore) her. Birth record is Q1 1881 so she was a month or so old - census 03/04

And in 1901 she is 20 and in 1911 she is 31

In 1891 - census also 03/04 - she is showing as 9.

Consider this....born late March 1881 and registered immediately. So in 1881 only a week old.
1891 - if she has no family with her ...she gives her age as 9 where she is really just 10?

:-0

That baffled me too Jude but I think that Penny is referring to the fact that she was alive in 1881 when she is said to be 9 in 1891.

However, in view of later census's, I believe they just guessed at her age on the 1891?

Dea x

Penny - not with you! This is them in 1881 - Charity was Oliver before her marriage and Sarah Ann is their eldest daughter - the only one missing in 1911 (I have assumed she was married and living elsewhere ....haven't found her in 1901 either.

Joseph dies just after the 1901 census

Jude

1881 complicates it a bit more

HOMER, Joseph Head Married M 30 1851 Fireiron Manufacturer
Dudley
Worcestershire VIEW
HOMER, Charity Wife Married F 25 1856
Dudley
Worcestershire VIEW
HOMER, Sarah A Daughter Single F 1 1880
Dudley
Worcestershire VIEW
HOMER, Florence E Daughter Single F 0 1881
Dudley
Worcestershire VIEW
OLIVER, Florence Sister In Law Single F 19 1862 Assists In House (Dom)
Dudley
Worcestershire VIEW
OLIVER, Rebecca Sister In Law Single F 17 1864 Scholar
Dudley
Worcestershire VIEW
SMITH, Elizaeth Servant Single F 16 1865 Domestic Serv
Dudley
Worcestershire