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My granddaughters other gran's maiden name is Smith born 1948 Warrington, her mothers maiden name was Bailey,

Not sure when she married J Smith ?? possibly around 1945?

M Bailey's parents were william Bailey and Florence ??

As yet I've not been able to find a marriage that could give me something to work from i've asked for more info but just these names have come back and that they were from Newton Le Willows

If anyone can find anything to get me started it would be appreciated

I've not tried anything on the SMITH side

Thank you

Possible:

Name: J S Smith
Spouse Surname: M.G.Bailey
Date of registration: Apr-May-Jun 1946
Registration district: Newton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 433

Thank you

Thinking they were possibly born 1920/25
so william and Florence possibly married round about that time ??

I wonder
Births Jun 1924
Bailey Marjorie G Catt Warrington 8c 273

Warrington covered Newton le Willows then


marriage
Bailey John W Catt Warrington 8c 312 ( maybe known as William)
Catt Florence Bailey Warrington 8c 312

I'Ve found a birth that looks as though it could be

Marjorie G Bailey 1924 newton le willows but no mothers name ??

That could be it a grace Catt was mentioned as sister / step sister

Just looked at the marriage ??

Could some one explane !!

the marriage is for a John W Bailey to a Florence Catt -Warrington reg district

Maybe John was John William and known as William

Sorry Got it Just got confused ( an age thing)

What year was the marriage

sorry i did copy it but it didnt post it :-(

Marriages Sep 1923 >>>

Catt Florence spouse Bailey Warrington 8c 312

Bailey John W spouse Catt Warrington 8c 312

Thanks Shirley

Just been trying to find Florence in 1911 but the only Catt's were in London ?
As I said the other Name given was Grace Catt must have been sister to Florence birthdate 19 Dec ???? which isn't much help

To throw a cog in the wheel another name I was given was Sarah Elizabeth Stride Not sure who's mother that was William's or Florence's ??

The smith side
1912 James Smith married Elizabeth Shone Warrington
1922 SMITH James S Newton-le-Willows St Helens Shone

Thanks Pam

I wasn't looking forward to the Smith Family But that gives me something to work from.

can you find out about any death info for anyone,that might help with birth years?

Looking at names given how about these??
death
Name: BAILEY, Florence Registration district: Warrington County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1983 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Date of Birth:28 November 1899 Volume no: 35 Page no: 0928

1901
RG number: RG13 Piece: 132 Folio: 94 Page: 47


Reg. District: St Pancras Sub District: Regent's Park
Parish: St Pancras Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: St Matthews City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 59, Arlington Road, St Pancras
County: London

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
CATT, William C Head Married M 35 1866 Furniture Packer
N K
Sussex
CATT, Sarah Wife F 29 1872
Soham
Cambridgeshire
CATT, Grace Daughter F 4 1897
St Pancras
London
CATT, Florence F 1 1900
St Pancras
London

1911 mother is Sarah Elizabeth! says married (no year s given) 2 children living not sure where Grace is

1911 census transcription details for: 16 Gower Place W C

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN692 RG78PN24 RD9 SD2 ED9 SN132


Reg. District: St Pancras Sub District: South St Pancras
Parish: St Pancras Enum. District: 9
Address: 16 Gower Place W C
County: London

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
SCOTT, Mary Ann Head Widow F 69 1842 Householder Cambridgeshire Kennett
CATT, William Charles Edward Lodger Married M 45 1866 Packer Hastings Sussex
CATT, Sarah Elizabeth Lodger Married F 38 1873 Soham Cambridge
CATT, Florence Daughter F 13 1898 School London
LYNCH, Joseph Michael Boarder Single M 27 1884 Journalist Sydney N Sw Visitor
CATT, Buntard Rudolph M Roh Boarder Single M 34 1877 Floral Artist Kiel / Holstein Resident
PAPPSCRIFS, S Boarder Single M 22 1889 Cook Volos Greece Resident

1911 she is a patient
CATT, Grace Patient Single F 14 1897 School London Camden TN
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
710 Reference:
RG14PN710 RD9 SD2 ED28 SN1

Registration District:
St Pancras Sub District:
South St Pancras Enumeration District:
28 Parish:
St Pancras

Address:
Gower Street W C County:
London

birth that fits
Births Jun 1874
Stride Sarah Elizabeth S. Stoneham 2c 69

? this might be her marriage to one of these.not finding a Catt/Congdon or Osboune marriage at the moment so if it is her perhaps they didn't marry ( and this is why no years were recorded on the 1911 census )
Marriages Dec 1892 (freeBMD)
Congdon John Dynham S. Stoneham 2c 87 ****
Osbourne George Alexander F S Stoneham 2c 87 ****
Stride Sarah Elizabeth S. Stoneham 2c 87
Toole Fanny S. Stoneham 2c 87

1901 John married Fanny ? so Sarah married George




1901 census transcription details for: 1, Palmerston Road Poplar Avenue, Aston

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 2859 Folio: 18 Page: 28


Reg. District: Aston Sub District: Deritend
Parish: Aston Enum. District: 41
Ecclesiastical District: Christ Church City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 1, Palmerston Road Poplar Avenue, Aston
County: Warwickshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
CONGDON, John D Head Married M 36 1865 Retired Tobacconist
Launceston
Cornwall
CONGDON, Fannie Wife Married F 36 1865
Southampton
Hampshire

Thank you Jan...

sorry for the delay I make a point off coming off the net about 9pm

I'll have a good look at what you've given me first glance it looks good

grace could have been born after 1911??

Info was very Vague that I was given

But thanks to all the help I think I can start finding out more!!!

Sylvia