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Douglas

Are you planning to try to contact the other member to whom I referred?

Hi Reggie
I know the other member to whom you referred to
he is prone to getting things wrong he is one of the
resons I'm try to check Isabella info so I put the right info
on my lot her father is my 4th g,g,father and he is my 3rd
cousin 1x removed in William b1848 I will have to let
him know the death 1838 cannot be.
again thanks to all.
doug

don't know if you have these 2 deaths

Burial: 17 May 1855 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Anthony Cowburn - Son of Henry Cowburn
Age: 26 Years
Abode: Rishton
Buried by: R. Moss Curate
Register: Burials 1851 - 1858, Page 369, Entry 2947
Source: LDS Film 1278820

Burial: 18 Oct 1857 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Thomas Cowburn - Son of Henry Cowburn
Age: 15 Yrs
Abode: Rishton
Buried by: W. Gilbert Curate
Register: Burials 1851 - 1858, Page 583, Entry 4663
Source: LDS Film 1278820

Reggie
You were quite right ,so have deleted the Yorkshire Isabella.

Regards Vera

From Doug....

Hi vera
Vera & all thanks so much will follow up on relevent info will have to wait untill the info comes on line. thanks again
doug

Hi ANN
I do have the 2 deaths
Thanks

Doug

Where did Isabella go from the 1851 census onwards( she is not with her family?).....anybody please......she is not the Yorkshire Isabella.

Regards Vera

Just been looking back on the thread ,on the 1851 census there is an Elizabeth Cowburn b 1834....but she is not on the 1841 !!!!!!!

Regards Vera

Hi Vera
Computer went down so went to bed here Did not get to computer untill
12 miday tues 15 your time as I was out all day.
Untill I saw Isabella's ? death I took it as Isabella 1841 was Elizabeth 1851
now its another bit of info to fixs.

Doug

Hi Douglas,
These gremlins come and go with our computers... dam things :-)
Glad it is fixed. Still no luck with Isabella/Elizabeth.


Regards Vera

Hi Vera
I have been led to beleave some Births & Baptisms were keep with mill
owners if it is so they may never be found, what do you think.
doug Ps 11pm tues in Aust

as all the children on the 1851 say born Lower Darwen I wonder if that is where the missing ones were baptised. Baptisms for there are only on line up to 1832.

I can have a look if you like when I am next in the record office but not sure exactly when that will be. Probably within the next 3 weeks.

Hi Ann
That will be great if you can find out as all Isabella's sibleings
are in the same boat, I was born Wyre Hall Farm Upper Rawcliffe Great Eccleston Lancashire England, Baptise, St Micheal's Church, St Micheal's on Wyre. have not been back to blackpool since I was a lad oprox 1960.
If only I had started my tree back than things could have been different.
Thanks which ever way it go's.
Doug

what I have found so far

nothing at Lower Darwen

St Paul's Blackburn
Richard c 28-2-1838 b 2-11-1837
Alice c 30-9-1839 b 23-6-1839

(that particular register only went up to 1840)

But I did find

c 9-6-1835 Henry Aspinall s of Henry & Mary Aspinall

could the 1st 3 children listed in 1841 actually be Mary's before marriage to Henry Cowburn or is it just a coincidence

the thing that puzzles me is that ALL the children born after 1827 are on lancsbmd but in every case the mmn = Aspin not Aspinall

eg (this one is Thomas)

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1841
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
COWBURN (boy) Darwen Blackburn ASPIN D/4/65

Hi Ann
The puzzle dose not get any better, aspin /aspinall Cowburn / Cowbrand / Couburn Isabellas Father Henry bap Couburn on opc father Joseph Couburn married Cowburn, yet 1782 Bap Cowbrand mother Grace Cowbrand Father unknowen, Grace also had a ? Ralph 1784 Bap
Cowburn. Grace Cowburn Married John ASPDEN 1790 no info from this point. If you don't under stand this lot will have to send you a copy & paste
of each one as I get cramp to much typing + spelling not good.
Doug

I want to be convinced that you are researching the right Isabella Cowburn. If she was alive in 1863 in order to be married, what made you think she died in 1838?

But the Isabella married in 1863 has a father Joseph, not Henry. So what has caused you to home in on Isabella, i.e. how is she related to you?

No birth of an Isabella Cowburn around 1839. No sign on the 1861 census, just before the above marriage.

So this is your Isabel?

1871 England Census
Name: Isabel Boardman
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Boardman
Gender: Female
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Blackburn
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Blackburn

Piece: 4174
Folio: 67
Page Number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
John Boardman 28 - Cotton Mill Labourer
Isabel Boardman 32 - Cotton Mill Rover
Joseph Boardman 6
Mary E Boardman 3
John E Boardman 2
Margaret A Boardman 10 Months
Alice Cowburn 21- Housekeeper
Ralph Almond 27
Thomas Almond 6

All living at 3 Swan Street




And this could be sister Alice with her family.

1861 England Census
Name: Joseph Cowborne
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice Cowborne
Gender: Male
Where born: Lower Darwen, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Blackburn

Piece: 3105
Folio: 17
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Cowborne 50 - Labourer
Alice Cowborne 50
Joshua Cowborne 15
Alice Cowborne 12
James Cowborne 5
Elizabeth Eddleston 39 - Lodger

And here's Isabella.

1851 England Census
Name: Isabella Coubourn
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Coubourn
Mother's Name: Alice Couborn
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Blackburn
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 25 Spring Gardens

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Blackburn

Piece: 2258
Folio: 511
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Coubourn 40 - Iron Founders Labourer
Alice Couborn 40 - Washerwoman
Thomas Coubourn 17 - Roaper [??? Roper perhaps?]
William Coubourn 16 - Powerloom Weaver
Isabella Coubourn 14 - Creeler with Mill [googled - Cotton Reeler]
Ann Coubourn 9
Joshua Coubourn 7
Alice Coubourn 2
Henry Coubourn 2 Mo
John Livesey 37 - Lodger
Martha Livesey 46 - Lodger
Sarah Livesey 6 - Lodger

Douglas

You say Stephen is 'prone to getting things wrong' - in what way?

If his findings differ from yours, it doesn't necessarily mean that he is the one who is wrong

You have not yet given any clear indication of how you connect to 'Isabella'. Please would you enlighten us - to help us to help you