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Cynthia
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6 Jun 2012 21:02 |
Hello Anne,
It may be worth putting the name Platt and area Shevington into the Search Trees box above. There are quite a few members who have Platts from that area in their trees.
If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owner to see if they can help. Regards. Cx
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Mike *
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6 Jun 2012 21:35 |
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Hi Mike , Yes I'm pretty sure that's him , but obviously can't be certain. I have his marriage Cert (hence can confirm his father is /was John Fisher). Its his ancestors that I'm trying to trace. I have traced his wife's but can't find anything on William prior to 1841. Thanks Anne ----------------------------------------------------
The informant on the death cert would be a clue to it being the right William. If it's not him you could be working on the wrong set of numbers
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mgnv
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7 Jun 2012 02:43 |
Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ Here are the pre-1840 Wm Platt births of Wigan RD. Neither look like our guy. Shevington is in Standish parish, and I would expect a birth rego'ed in Standish subdistrict for our guy.
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1839 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference PLATT William Wigan Wigan & Leigh WHITTLE WIG/4/322
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1840 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference PLATT William Aspull Wigan & Leigh TURNER ASPL/2/257
I think Wm's mum was Ann. I don't have a sub, so I can't check the censuses prperly, but it looks like Wm was living next door to Eliz in 1851, and his sis was a servant in James's h/h in 1861.
Marriage: 1 Jan 1849 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England James Ashcroft - (X), 32 Collier Widower of Orrell Ann Turner - (X), 26 Widow of Orrell Groom's Father: William Ashcroft, Collier Bride's Father: John Aspinal, Collier Witness: Henry Ashcroft, (X); Elizabeth Jeffs, (X) Married by Banns by: Henry J.Gunning Rector Register: Marriages 1848 - 1849, Page 131, Entry 262 Source: LDS Film 1885695
Maybe some with a sub can look these censuses up - they're Platt/Ashcroft on Ancestry, but on FMP: 1851 HO107 /2198 74 3 RATT, Ann Wigan VIEW VIEW HO107 /2198 75 4 ASHEROFT, James Wigan VIEW VIEW 1861 RG09/2767 99 25 ASHCROFT, James Wigan VIEW VIEW RG09/2767 99 26 PLATT, William Wigan VIEW VIEW
LK has posted James 1851 - Wm is in the immediately preceeding h/h
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LadyKira
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7 Jun 2012 09:34 |
clearly Platt on original.
1851 Address: Hallet Hole, Shevington RATT, Ann Head Widow F 39 1812 Labourer Shevington, Lancashire RATT, Jane Lodger F 25 1826 Labourer Shevington, Lancashire DARBYSHIRE, Ellen Lodger F 31 1820 Dress Maker Shevington, Lancashire RATT, Ann Lodger F 4 1847 Shevington, Lancashire RATT, William Lodger M 1 1850 Shevington, Lancashire RATT, William Lodger Unmarried M 13 1838 Drawer Shevington, Lancashire
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LadyKira
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7 Jun 2012 09:42 |
1851 Address: Hallet Hole, Shevington ASHEROFT, John Head Married M 37 1814 Collier Pendleton, Lancashire ASHEROFT, Ellen Wife Married F 38 1813 Upholland, Lancashire ASHEROFT, William Son Unmarried M 12 1839 Farmer Orrell, Lancashire VIEW ASHEROFT, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 9 1842 Orrell, Lancashire ASHEROFT, Margaret Daughter Unmarried F 7 1844 Standish, Lancashire ASHEROFT, James Son Unmarried M 4 1847 Standish, Lancashire ASHEROFT, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 2 1849 Standish, Lancashire WHITE, Samuel Lodger Unmarried M 27 1824 Labourer N K
I think Ellen may be a Platt. I think I saw the marriage last night. I am off to work now but I am sure someone will follow this through.
Small village communities often had multiple marriages within the same families.
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Anne
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7 Jun 2012 09:44 |
HI mgnv, Thanks for looking. As I say, I have all his wife's side. It is William Platt (Mother probably Ann - per Census' -, father given as John Fisher at his marriage) that I am looking for. As you have found , the Wm Platts registered (and on baptism records) are not the one I am looking for. Anyway, thanks again. Anne
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LadyKira
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7 Jun 2012 09:49 |
1851 ASHEROFT, Ann Address: Shevington Nook, Shevington ASHEROFT, Ann Head Widow F 30 1821 Labourer Standish, Lancashire VIEW ASHEROFT, William Son Unmarried M 9 1842 Drawer Shevington, Lancashire
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LadyKira
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7 Jun 2012 09:53 |
The only Fisher in the village is
1851 census y Address: Houghton House, Shevington DECONPORT, John Head Married M 43 1808 Jailor Mawdesley, Lancashire VIEW DECONPORT, Margaret Wife Married F 48 1803 Anderton, Lancashire VIEW DECONPORT, Thomas Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Tailor Shevington, Lancashire DECONPORT, John Son Unmarried M 11 1840 Scholar Shevington, Lancashire DECONPORT, Henry Son Unmarried M 9 1842 Scholar Shevington, Lancashire DECONPORT, Ellen Grand Daughter Unmarried F 2 1849 Shevington, Lancashire FISHER, Henry Lodger Widower M 74 1777 Tailor Rufford, Lancashire
may be worth tracking
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