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Can't find birth cert for Minnie Jefferies

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Michelle

Michelle Report 6 Jun 2012 15:13

Hi guys...

Been a member here for ages now, but this is my first post!

Having serious problems locating the birth cert for my Great Grandmother Minnie Jefferies. I have her wedding cert showing her to be 21 in 1905 (so birth approx 1884). It shows her father is Edward Jefferies. I can find no evidence of either of them in any Census returns (except when she was married), no birth certs, nothing. I have full membership to this site so have made the most of searching through the records and censuses and have tried various spellings of Jefferies (Jeffries, Jeffrys...etc). Nothing!

I don't know where to go next! Anyone have any ideas or a few minutes to have a look for me, it would be much appreciated?! I'm probably missing something very obvious, I'm thinking a fresh pair of eyes may help!

Her address on the wedding cert is 104 Bishop Road, Fulham and the marriage was at All Saints Church, Fulham, London.

Thanks in advance for any help!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Jun 2012 15:17

Welcome to the boards Michelle

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Minnie Jefferies Name: Minnie Jefferies......Spinster
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Spouse Name: Albert Thomas Mitchell
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 24 Apr 1905
Parish: Fulham All Saints
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: Edward Jefferies ........Carpenter
Spouse Father Name: George Mitchell
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Joseph and Rose Ward.

Michelle

Michelle Report 6 Jun 2012 15:22

Thanks! I have the marriage cert, it's birth certs for Minnie and her father I am after. Tried all manner of name spellings just incase of errors....nothing!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Jun 2012 15:22

Household transcription
1911 census
Person: MITCHELL, Minnie
Address: 17 Byam Street Fulham S W London

MITCHELL, Albert Thomas Head Married7 years M 26 1885 Carman Midx Fulham VIEW
MITCHELL, Minnie Wife Married7 years F 26 1885 Midx Fulham VIEW
MITCHELL, Sidney Albert Son M 5 1906 S Midx Fulham VIEW
MITCHELL, Bertha Isabel Daughter F 3 1908 S Midx Fulham VIEW
MITCHELL, Victor Stanley Son M 1 1910 Midx Fulham VIEW
RICKETTS, Elizabeth Visitor Widow F 49 1862 None Hants Christchurch VIEW
RICKETTS, Nellie Visitor F 9 1902 S Midx Fulham VIEW
RICKETTS, George Visitor M 7 1904 S Midx Fulham VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 368
Reference: RG14PN368 RG78PN11 RD3 SD5 ED31 SN142
Registration District: Fulham
Sub District: South Fulham
Enumeration District: 31
Parish: Fulham
Address: 17 Byam Street Fulham S W London
County: London

Helen

Helen Report 6 Jun 2012 15:23

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Minnie Jeffrey
Name: Minnie Jeffrey
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1885
Baptism Date: 6 Sep 1885
Father's Name: Edward Jeffrey
Mother's name: Mary Jeffrey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walham Green
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Register Type: Parish Registers

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Jun 2012 15:24

I posted the marriage to give us her Fathers occupation and to see if the witnesses were family members which may have helped.

Helen

Helen Report 6 Jun 2012 15:26

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Minnie Jeffery
Name: Minnie Jeffery
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1884
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 825 (click to see others on page)

Michelle

Michelle Report 6 Jun 2012 15:28

@ PricklyHolly, oh I see, thanks! I do read the forums but obv not got that hang of it, lol!

@Helen............omg how/where did you find that?? Thank you so much!! I've been hunting for hours/days at a time and you find it in minutes!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 6 Jun 2012 15:28

Possible? But father is a bricklayer.

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Minnie Jeffrey Name: Minnie Jeffrey
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1885
Baptism Date: 6 Sep 1885
Father's Name: Edward Jeffrey
Mother's name: Mary Jeffrey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walham Green
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Register Type: Parish Registers


Michelle

Michelle Report 6 Jun 2012 15:32

Thanks! I know alot of my family changed occupation from one census to the next so it could very well be that he was a bricklayer when Minnie was born then turned his hand to carpentry by the time she got married! Thanks for all your help! <3

Michelle

Michelle Report 6 Jun 2012 15:47

Will order one of the birth certs, I think the one with the spelling Jeffery as I think that will be more likely....I know she was born in Fulham....never seen walham Green in any family docs/info. Thanks again!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Jun 2012 15:50

Struggling to find her in 1891 and 1901. :-(

Michelle

Michelle Report 6 Jun 2012 15:54

I know.....I've not been able to find anything of her or her father prior to her getting married. I can't imagine how many hours I have spent looking for her. It's a strange one cause even her own children (who are all passed away now) knew nothing about her when I asked them years ago.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Jun 2012 16:01

Don't give up............someone might pop on here later and find something.

I will check back later.

It could be that the parents had died and she was fostered out...........or her Father died and her Mother remarried so she might appear under a different name!

A few possibilities!

Helen

Helen Report 6 Jun 2012 16:18

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Henry Robert Jeffrey
Name: Henry Robert Jeffrey
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1881
Baptism Date: 6 Nov 1881
Father's Name: Edward Jeffrey
Mother's name: Mary Jeffrey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walham Green
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Register Type: Parish Registers

Also a bricklayer

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Jun 2012 16:39

There doesn't appear to be any sign of him in 1891 or 1901 either!!

Michelle

Michelle Report 6 Jun 2012 17:01

It's not just me then! I've been sat here this last couple of hours trying again in all manner of spelling, etc thru census's. birth certs, marriages etc....nothing! :-(

Helen

Helen Report 6 Jun 2012 17:05

1881 England Census about Edward Jeffrie
Name: Edward Jeffrie
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Jeffrie
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 36A Stanley Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Masons Labourer
Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 33b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 73
Folio: 97
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Jeffrie 33
Mary Jeffrie 33
Mary L. Jeffrie 14
Edward Jeffrie 12
Sofia Jeffrie 10
Eliza Jeffrie 8
Edie Jeffrie 5
Henry Jeffrie 1

Just guessing at this family

Michelle

Michelle Report 6 Jun 2012 17:19

Can't find that family in the next census tho. :-S

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Jun 2012 19:36

Well done for finding that 1881 Helen!!