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Unknown

Unknown Report 11 Jun 2012 07:19

i still can't find nancy bryden's marriages or her death. I know she died in the wirral and tha her second husbands name was david, but i do'n know who the kids were sally :-0

K

K Report 11 Jun 2012 08:10

Is this Nancy - the only birth that I can see - Edit - She appears to have died aged 11

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Bryden Nancy Broadley Preston 8e 909

Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Jun 2012 08:15


probably not that one -


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Nancy Bryden
Birth Date: abt 1912
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
Age at Death: 11
Registration district: Preston
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 671


Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 Jun 2012 08:46

That birth would fit with this marriage:-

Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)
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BROADLEY Nancy Jane Burnley 8e 486
Bryden John Gregor Burnley 8e 486

............so was Nancy born Broadley?

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Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
Broadley Nancy Jane Burnley 8e 262
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Same family in 1911:-

BRYDEN, John Gregor Head Married M 36 1875 Moulder Iron Foundry Stirlingshire Bonnybridge Resident
BRYDEN, Nancy Jane Wife Married9 years F 28 1883 Lancashire Padiham
BRYDEN, Annie Daughter F 7 1904 Lancashire Warrington
BRYDEN, Jessie Daughter F 5 1906 Lancashire Preston
BRYDEN, Walter Son M 1 1910 Lancashire Preston
BRYDEN, Jenny Daughter F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Lancashire Preston
RG number: RG14
Piece: 25261
Reference: RG14PN25261 RG78PN1446 RD476 SD2 ED18 SN91
Registration District: Preston
Sub District: East Preston
Enumeration District: 18
Parish: Preston
Address: 36 Hudson St Preston
County: Lancashire

6 Children:- 4 living and 2 died.
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children born to this couple after 1911:-

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Bryden Nancy Broadley Preston 8e 909

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Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
Bryden Thomas Broadley Preston 8e 962

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Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
Bryden Gladys Broadley Preston 8e 650

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Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Bryden Ivy Broadley Preston 8e 625

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Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
Bryden Doris Broadley Preston 8e 860
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The above couple were together in 1901 census so this Nancy was not married before.............................
and she died as Bryden:-

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Nancy J Bryden
Name:Nancy J Bryden
Birth Date:abt 1883
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1957
Age at Death:74
Registration district:Preston
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:10f
Page:293
...........................so was married only once and not to David, so this is probably not her.
Will leave info for elimination.

Unknown

Unknown Report 11 Jun 2012 09:19

nancy bryden born sept 1912 in preston sally

Lynski

Lynski Report 11 Jun 2012 09:57

Related thread -

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1301937

Lynski

Lynski Report 11 Jun 2012 09:58

How are you connected to Nancy to get back to her?

Unknown

Unknown Report 11 Jun 2012 10:06

nancy bryden was my great aunt sally

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 Jun 2012 10:14

Sally,
It has already been shown above that the Nancy Bryden born in 1912 died in 1923 aged 11yrs old, so could never have married.

What makes you think that she married?
Do you know if she had any children?

K

K Report 11 Jun 2012 10:15

Were Nancy and her siblings (listed on your other thread) the children of David Septimus Byden and Martha A Turner - Based on an Ancestry tree - and are these the 4 youngest children all born in the Wirrell.

No birth date is listed on the tree for Nancy so could she have been Emily A Bryden - shortened to Nancy?

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
BRYDEN Emily A Turner Wirral 8a 839

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Bryden David E Turner Wirral 8a 793

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Bryden Mabel L Turner Wirral 8a 650

Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Bryden Dora Turner Wirral 8a 776

Catherine

Catherine Report 11 Jun 2012 10:23

Other thread states that Nancy had a younger sister:-
(nancy bryden had two younger sisters, mabel louisa bryden b 1917 in the wirral, d 2000 a johnson and dora bryden b 1921, d 2009 a cracknell in the wirral. sally)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005 about Mabel L Bryden

Name:Mabel L Bryden
Mother's Maiden Surname:Turner
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1917
Registration district:Wirral
Inferred County:Cheshire
Volume Number:8a
Page Number:650

other children born after 1911:-

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
BRYDEN Emily A Turner Wirral 8a 839

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Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Bryden David E Turner Wirral 8a 793

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Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Bryden Mabel L Turner Wirral 8a 650

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Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Bryden Dora Turner Wirral 8a 776


............................so this is not the same family as that of Nancy born in 1912.

(If Mabel and Dora were YOUNGER sisters then Nancy couldn't have been born in 1912).


K

K Report 11 Jun 2012 10:33

Parents of the above in 1911?

Name: David S Bryden
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Frankby Greasby Grange
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Alwyn Newton West Kirby
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Hundresser
Registration district: Wirral
Registration District Number: 451
Sub-registration district: Woodchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 21944
Household Members:
Name Age
David S Bryden 33
Amnie Bryden 31
Harold Bryden 2
James E Price 43
Margaret E Price 34
Sarah Corbett 14

Unknown

Unknown Report 11 Jun 2012 10:50

i found emily a rutter's death in 1999 i birkenhead b sept 1911 d nov 1999. thanks for your help with getting the right name sally :-D

Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Jun 2012 16:02

Maybe the death you found for Nancy E Rutter is this lady...


Marriages Dec 1931 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Haydock Nancy E - Rutter- Clitheroe 8e 553
Rutter Frank -Haydock - Clitheroe 8e 553

Unknown

Unknown Report 11 Jun 2012 22:15

i foundd two marriages for emily a bryden emily abrydenmarriage yr 1932 in wirral to thomas rex wilson second marriage to george r rutter yr 1961 in wirral . i finally found them sally

Unknown

Unknown Report 13 Jun 2012 07:13

i still can't find george w rutters birth or death,he's not an easy one to find sally

Unknown

Unknown Report 13 Jun 2012 07:24

david s bryden can't be the parent as he came from dumfriesshire and moved up to wallasey, their mother came from wallasey, i found a letter that my late great aunt dora sent me if that helps sally

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jun 2012 10:18

Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)
BRYDEN David Septimus Birkenhead 8a 966
TURNER Martha Annie Birkenhead 8a 966


1911 census


Person: BRYDEN, David S Address: Alwyn Newton Frankby

BRYDEN, David S Head Married4 years M 33 1878 Hair Dresser Liverpool Lancs VIEW
BRYDEN, Annie Wife Married F 31 1880 Liverpool Lancs VIEW
BRYDEN, Harold Son M 2 1909 Leacombe Cheshire VIEW
PRICE, James E Boarder Married M 43 1868 Rent Collector Liverpool Lancs VIEW
PRICE, Margaret E Boarder Married3 years F 34 1877 Barrow in Furness Lancs VIEW
CORBETT, Sarah Servant F 14 1897 General Servant Ashton in Makerfield VIEW

The later children have been shown above.there is NO child named NANCY in this family

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jun 2012 10:21

You can't look for George Rutter's birth and death until you know how old he was when he married - for that info, you must buy the cert

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jun 2012 10:24

You state that 'Nancy' was your great aunt - who gave you that info?

Which of her siblings was your grandparent?

That is the most important piece of info..................................please tell us