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Im hoping that someone can help me find the parents of Leah Pearson Dent please. I have everything else about her. i.e marriages etc but not her parents she was born 1824 West Auckland Co Durham?

I cannot find who her parents and family are.

many thanks

Who is the father on her marriage certificate?

married rather late but get the cert for her father's name
Name: Leah Pearson Dent
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1871
Registration district: Auckland
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 394

spouse William Clarkson or Michael Wynn

Without the cert how would you know if she had been married before or not

1851 but no idea if connected or not

Name: Leah P Palmer
[Leah Pearson Palmer]
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John B Palmer
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Duaham, West Auckland
[Durham, West Aukland]

Civil parish: Kingston upon Thames
Ecclesiastical parish: Surbiton St Mark
Town: Kingston upon Thames
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Wimbledon
ED, institution, or vessel: 1k
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 225
Piece: 1603
Folio: 393
Page Number: 60
Household Members: Name Age
John B Palmer 28
Leah P Palmer 25
Jane Brake 14

1871 even stranger ?

Name: Leah Palmer
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Stone Chester, Durham, England
Civil parish: Hexham
Ecclesiastical parish: Hexham
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Hexham
Sub-registration district: Hexham
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 35
Piece: 5146
Folio: 47
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Leah Palmer 47
Isabella Wynn 23 - shown as adopted daughter
Michael Wynn 10 - adopted son
John Willm S Wynn 3 - adopted
Leah Ann Wynn 2 Months -daughter


That John Palmer seems to be on later census with different wives - Isabella and then Dorothy but with the same occupation of civil engineer

Possible 1861 census? If so, gets even stranger!

Name: Leah Palmer
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Stone Cheston, Durham, England

Civil parish: Windlestone
Ecclesiastical parish: Coundon
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 3709
Folio: 12
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Leah Palmer 33 married
Ester Winn 7 vistor b Denton Durham
Michael Winn 5 Months grandson b Merrington Grange Durham

Re GB find........
1861
PALMER, John B Head Married M 35 1826 Engineer
South Shields, Durham VIEW
PALMER, Isabella Wife Married F 27 1834 Wife
Elwick, Durham VIEW
COUSSONS, Dorothy Sister In Law Unmarried F 15 1846 Scholar
Elwick, Durham VIEW
PALMER, Thomas S Son M 3 1858
Newcastle, Northumberland VIEW
PALMER, Mary M Daughter F 0 (6M) 1861
Newcastle, Northumberland VIEW
LONGSTAFF, Margaret Servant F 13 1848 Servant
Newcastle, Northumberland VIEW
Piece: 3820
Folio: 98
Page: 4
Registration District: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Civil Parish: St Andrew
Municipal Borough: Newcastle upon Tyne
Address: 6, Higham Place, St Andrew, Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland



Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%)
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COSGRAVE William Westminster 1a 644
>>>>>>COUSSONS Dorothy Westminster 1a 644
>>>>>Palmer John Brough Westminster 1a 644
PLAMPING Sarah Westminster 1a



Regards Vera

Not got much of a clue as to what's going on here :-S

She dies as Leah Wynn in 1875. The 1871 census is months before she married Michael Wynn but had obviously known/been with him for over ten years. The Michael "grandson" aged 5months in 1861 is the adopted son aged 10 in 1871. And I have found Isabella with her (I think) widowed father and a brother William in 1861. I assume Ester was another daughter of Michael but can't find her after 1861 census.

And John B it would seem was living with his wife Isabella and his future wife Dorothy - who if the census is correct must have been Isabella's sister. But I cannot find a marriage to Leah or to Isabella.....A Palmer tree on A has marriage (unsupported) to Leah on 15 April 1843, to Isabella Coussens in 1856 (also unsupported) and finally to Dorothy in 1873.

Another tree has a witness to the marriage to Dorothy as Leah Coussens!

A right tangled web!

But back to Shirley's post - get the marriage certificate to Michael Wynn

Jude

It is a very tangled web indeed .All the information I have been sent is correct and I got most of it off the census she did marryJohn Brough Palmer supposedly in 1843 (look up his family born 1826 South Shields)And married Michael Winn 1871 again from Durham Registras.Thank you very much for all the information you have all sent me but it is her birth parents I would like to find if at all possible. Thanking you all once again

This is your best bet for her father

But back to Shirley's post - get the marriage certificate to Michael Wynn

This will give you her father's name and occupation. You can at least then try and find them in 1841

One reason for thinking she did not marry John Palmer is that she marries Michael Wynn as Pearson Dent. So assuming they had not divorced....

George you wrote: I have everything else about her. i.e marriages etc but not her parents


Well, you dont as you dont have the certificate(s)

You'll have to stick your hand in your pocket Im affraid!


You can buy them from here....£9.25



http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

I must admit I'm not too sure what Leah's maiden name really is! Hopefully, the marriage cert will have a father's name.....

Death of Leah in 1850 not possible because she is on census with John in 1851 (not to say the ones wefind in 1861 and 1871)!!

Jude

I feel I wasted my time looking for and posting census info as that information should have been included in the request

Buy the cert to see how she describes herself

Births Mar 1871 (>99%)
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Wynn Leah Ann Hexham 10b 272

George...this tangled web has intrigued me greatly....

I think there are two certificates you need to buy. Leah's marriage to Michael Wynn and Leah Wynn's birth certificate as suggested by GB.

Here are some notes I have made....

Whilst marriages for John Brough Palmer in 1843 to Leah and 1856 to Isabella are widely reported elsewhere there is no evidence for either of these. However, the date in 1843 is very specific so just where has this come from?

Ester Wynn on 1861 census with Leah Palmer and William on 1861 census with Michael Wynn were probably twins

Births Jun 1854 (>99%)
WYNN Esther Darlington 10a 15
WYNN William Darlington 10a 15

In 1851 Michael is with wife Ann. An Ann Wynn dies December 1860

Deaths Dec 1860 (>99%)
Wynn Ann Auckland 10a 75

In 1861 census with Leah is Michael Winn "grandson" aged 5 months. Did Ann die in childbirth?

Could Ann be Leah's sister?

Possible death in Marylebone for Isabella (last children born there) in 1864

Leah Coussins is sister of Isabella and Dorothy and is on one census with both of them and parents George and Mary.

My guess is that John and Leah were not together very long - no children in 1851 census which would be unusual and that shortly after that census in Kingston upon Thames she returned to Durham alone.

John and children - and Dorothy - all AWOL in 1871

Don't believe everything you read elsewhere without hard evidence...come back to us when you have the certs! :-)

Mary Maud Palmer (from 1861 census) goes on to marry Godfrey Taylor:-

1901 England Census about Mary M Taylor
Name: Mary M Taylor
[Mary M Palmer]
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Gotfred M Taylor
Mother's name: Dora Palmer
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Wimbledon
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Wimbledon
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Piece: 657
Folio: 67
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Gotfred M Taylor 39 born: 1862, Pimlico, London
xxxx Mary M Taylor 40 xxxx
Isabel G Taylor 12
Maud D M Taylor 8
Olive M Taylor 7
xxxx Dora Palmer 53 xxxx
Jas W Waterhouse 23
Agnes Manning 45
Ethel M Reeder 26
Sarah King 22
......................................................

So I think this is Dorothy in 1871:-

1871 England Census about Dora Cousens
Name: Dora Cousens
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Sedgefield, Durham, England
Civil parish: Kingston on Thames
Ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 70
Piece: 861
Folio: 144
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
John Taylor 53 - Civil Engineer( b.1818 born: Sunderland, Durham)
Hannah M Taylor 51
John Taylor 18
Mary B Taylor 17
Edward B Taylor 14
xxxx Godfrey M Taylor 9 xxxx
xxxx Dora Cousens 24 xxxx
Am Ellis 27
Martha H Fisher 20

Here is a Dent connection.

George Coussons a Blacksmith 1806 married
Mary Dent born 1811?
They had a daughter Isabella 1833/4 married John B Palmer
Dorothy 1846 married John B Palmer
Leah Coussons 1848 witness on marriage of Dorothy.
George DENT Coussons 1837

So is Mary Dent the Aunt of Leah Pearson Dent!!

Maryb.