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I thought it said 14 yrs old Gins on 1891 census for him, it was late last night when I was on so must have mis read it.

Thanks
Sandra

same family on 1881 census

was Edgar Walter???

Address: ?, Ashwellthorpe

PITCHER, Edward W Head Married M 28 1853 Farm Labourer Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk
PITCHER, Maria Wife Married F 30 1851 Farm Labourer Wife Wreningham, Norfolk
PITCHER, Hanah M Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk
PITCHER, Arthur G E Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk
PITCHER, Raymond C Son Single M 2 1879 Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk
PITCHER, Edgar W Son Single M 0 1881 Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk

There is a Norfolk birth in 1880 on Ancestry, not showing on Freebmd


And as you say A is not playing!

Still wondering how the connection is made to Edward and Maria being his parents when his age is 26 in 1911 so makes his birth c1885 ??

That's the correct one Tempest x

Shirley I got him at a different age each census, thats why I was confused, although it doesnt take a lot to confuse me, I put it down to old age lol

sounds as if thats them in 1881 tempest as well x

parents and brother on 1911 census

6 children born, all alive at time of census

Address: Wicklewood Wymondham

PITCHER, Edward Walter Head Married38 years M 58 1853 Labourer Ashwellthorpe Nfk
PITCHER, Maria Wife Married38 years F 60 1851 Wreningham Nfk
PITCHER, Stafford William Son M 21 1890 Labourer Carbrooke Nfk

shirley
that was why I was having difficulty finding birth, I was looking between 1878 and 1885..I thought it would be easy to find as I wouldn't have thought there would be too many with that name.

Thanks for helping
sandra

So can you find Walter in 1911 Tempest please, he died between 1959 and 1961 if that helps

I posted the 1911 one on page 1 aged 26 and based in Portsmouth

well here's the birth, but are you sure we have the right man?

Birth transcript details Civil registration event: Birth

Name: PITCHERS, Edgar Walter
Registration district: Depwade
County: Norfolk
Year of registration: 1881
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Volume no: 4B
Page no: 257

Gins 1880 birth would fit, the family seem to stay all their lives in Norfolk

thanks for helping to try to figure this out

If you can find death Tempest would that give his birth date ??, he was definetly in the navy though and not the army.

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Edgar W Pitcher
Name: Edgar W Pitcher
Birth Date: abt 1881
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1961
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Norwich Outer
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 722

Thats why i couldn't find his birth because he was known as Walter Edgar but born as Edgar Walter.
Thats a great help, thanks!

I need to go out now so I will continue this when I get back home later.
Thanks for your help.

IF the Portsmouth 1911 is him, is it possible that he lied about his age and said he was 5 years younger than he actually was? It definitely says 26

Jude

Good point Jude

My mom did though. She got her pension through from teaching....and it 'came early' so she told dad!

She was a bit of an 'inigma'.....born before her time

WW1 soldiers/sailors/airmen etc seem to be a good possibility for creative ages. Some lied because they were too young to enlist. Maybe some lied because they were too old. In Walter/Edgar's case - by 1914 he would really have been 34. But in 1911 was war a possibility??

Have we found any military records?