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Help needed for Denchfield family.

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Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 14 Aug 2012 15:20

Ok people,

My great great grandfather is Seth Denchfield, he married Eliza Baker in 1900 in Wing.

They had 2 children - Lotty Elizabeth born 1895 and Ivy Gladys born 1907.

I recently noticed on the 1911 census (even though I have looked at it several times!!), that it states they had 3 children, 2 living and 1 died.

I did not know about this sibling that had died.

How am I to find out the other child?

There are many Denchfields born and registered in their area of Leighton Buzzard so
I am stuck how to try and narrow it down without having to purchase hundreds of certificates!

Any help would be appreciated.

Donna.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 14 Aug 2012 15:27

If they married in 1900 then do you have the birth cert for Lotty Elizabeth born 1895 ?

The way i find best to search for a child who died is NOT to search births first

search for deaths first then cross reference the deaths by searching for their births


Roy

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 14 Aug 2012 15:32

Hi Roy,

Yes I do have the birth cert for Lotty in 1895 .

I will look for deaths, thanks for that, though it may take a while as
I am unsure of the age that the child died.

All I know now is that it was before 1911!

Thanks for your help.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Aug 2012 15:34

Just for INFO

1911 census

Person: DENCHFIELD, Seth Address: School Lane Wing Leighton Buzzard
Cost


DIMMOCK, Matthew Head Widower M 67 1844 Shoe - Mender Wing Bucks VIEW
DENCHFIELD, Seth Boarder Married M 56 1855 General Labourer Wing Bucks VIEW
DENCHFIELD, Eliza Jane Wife Married11 years F 44 1867 Wing Bucks VIEW
DENCHFIELD, Ivy Gladys Daughter F 3 1908 Wing Bucks

RG14 Piece: 8975 Reference: RG14PN8975 RG78PN475 RD177 SD2 ED1 SN6
Registration District: Leighton Buzzard
Sub District: Wing

Charlotte Elizabeth has been crossed out - presumably living elsewhere

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 14 Aug 2012 15:34

Only 4 children's deaths registered for that surname between 1890 and 1911 in that district

Deaths Mar 1904

DENCHFIELD Salome 0 Leighton B. 3b 263

Deaths Mar 1902

Denchfield Leah 15 Leighton B. 3b 253


Deaths Dec 1890

Denchfield Annie 2 Leighton B. 3b 267

Deaths Dec 1894

Denchfield Alfred W 1 Leighton B. 3b 223



Roy

Gee

Gee Report 14 Aug 2012 15:35

Youre in luck there is only one death that it can be!

Have a look on freebmd

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Aug 2012 15:36

??????????

Deaths Mar 1904 (>99%)
DENCHFIELD Salome 0 Leighton B. 3b 263

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 14 Aug 2012 15:39

Births Mar 1904

Denchfield Salome Leighton B. 3b 375


Roy

Gee

Gee Report 14 Aug 2012 15:53

Hmmmm there is another family in the same place who has the mother listed as 'Salome'


Could be her childs death?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Aug 2012 16:01

As Charlotte was born before marriage.....perhaps the child who died was also pre-marital

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 14 Aug 2012 16:01

Possible Gins but it's also possible that both families are related and the naming of the child was due to that connection?

I was named after my grandmothers brother

Roy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Aug 2012 16:02

1901 Census for LEAH who died 1902


Name: Leah Denchfield
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Denchfield
Mother's Name: Salome Denchfield
Gender: Female
Where born: Wing, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Wing
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Wing
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Wing
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 80
Piece: 1509
Folio: 10
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
George Denchfield 42
Salome Denchfield 36
Sarah J Denchfield 15
Leah Denchfield 14
Herbert G Denchfield 6
Mabel E Miles 5

In 1911, the couple have been married 26 years.......had 6 children, of whom 3 have died

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 14 Aug 2012 16:04

As Reggie said i had that same thought? The 1901 and the 1890 census should help

Births Mar 1887

Denchfield Leah Leighton B. 3b 391

Deaths Mar 1902

Denchfield Leah 15 Leighton B. 3b 253


Roy

Gee

Gee Report 14 Aug 2012 16:06


Wrong family, this is Leahs lot

1901 England Census
about Leah Denchfield
Name: Leah Denchfield
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Denchfield
Mother's Name: Salome Denchfield
Gender: Female
Where born: Wing, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Wing
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Wing
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Wing
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 80
Piece: 1509
Folio: 10
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
George Denchfield 42
Salome Denchfield 36
Sarah J Denchfield 15
Leah Denchfield 14
Herbert G Denchfield 6
Mabel E Miles 5


Gee

Gee Report 14 Aug 2012 16:08

Was your grandmothers brother called Porkie Pie.....how odd

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Aug 2012 16:09

I think we've narrowed the choice to one between Annie and Alfred....do you agree?

Gee

Gee Report 14 Aug 2012 16:09

Yep me too Reggie

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 14 Aug 2012 16:17

As the question on the 1911 census asks for children to that marriage and surviving children to that marriage then Salome is still my choice

Gins :-D i take it your grandmother was called Gins n tonic ;-)

Roy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Aug 2012 16:30

That doesn't work, Roy.......they lied about the elder girl.

Gee

Gee Report 14 Aug 2012 16:31

Roy, either youre nuts or I am

Salome is on the 1901 with parents George and Salome then she dies before the 1911


No Salome here with the family iin question

1901 England Census
Name: Leth Denchfield
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Denchfield
Gender: Male
Where born: Wing, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Wing
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Wing
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Wing
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 92
Piece: 1509
Folio: 11
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Leth Denchfield 47
Eliza Denchfield 33
Elizabeth Denchfield 5


As you bin down the pub! <3