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It's as though William and Mary in the 1851 and 71 have two lots of kids. I can't find the family in 1861 which will link the two groups of kids together. They have to be the same family based on William and Mary's details being the same.

I can't find the family in the 1861 and need my bed.

I've looked under Lee and not found so if someone can see if they can locate please.

Hope I've not confused you too muchTracy. And I can't find Maurice either. Grrr.

I have found a Horace. Don't know if it makes sense but posting anyway.

His father is shown as John. John's yob would be c1865. So if Maurice turns out to be Horace, he is the son of John, the brother of Herbert.

Horace Lea
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1895 Ch Gresley,? Derbyshire
census: 31 Mar 1901 Church Gresley (Derby),? Staffordshire,? England
name: Horace Lea
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 6
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Ch Gresley, Derbyshire
record type: Household
registration district: Burton Upon Trent
sub-district: Gresley
ecclesiastical parish: St George & St Mary Church Gresley
civil parish: Church Gresley (Derby)
county: Staffordshire



1901 Census Household Record

Household information
Address 12 Moat St
Civil Parish Church Gresley
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Church Gresley St George & St Mary
Parliamentary Borough or Division South Derbyshire
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Swadlincote
Administrative County Derby
Householder 1
Name Child Lea
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 0
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Elizah Lea
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 11
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Florence Lea
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 9
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name George E Lea
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 13
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Pipe Labourer Sany
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name Horace Lea
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 6
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name John Lea
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 36
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Collier
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 7
Name Laura M Lea
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 4
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 8
Name Miranda Lea
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 30
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Yorks Upper Wortley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 9
Name Eliza Middleton
Relation to Head of Family Visitor
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 24
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Nurse Sick
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 10
Name Kate Steele
Relation to Head of Family Step Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 11
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbys Ch Gresley
Language

Thank you so much for all your help!! Sorry I didn't reply earlier, must have dropped off!! Thank you again!!! :-D

Just reading over your posts, Maurice is definitely not horrace as there is a park named after him by his father Herbert in Swadlincote. So on the right lines!!!

Morning Tracy

I've not driven through Swadlingcote for about twenty years. The Leas are a bit confusing but now I know which family it should make more sense. Seems that Maurice is from the Northampton Leas but maybe there is the link to Church Gresley or why wouldn't the family have done something in Northampton? (not worked that one out yet). After I read your post this morning I was wondering how a mining family could have dedicated a park. That's when I googled the park and found out that the Maurice safc found the death for was your Maurice so I think it means that those Leas I found last night/early this morning and deleted in favour of the Gresley Leas who happen to have a lot in common, were the right ones after all; the family in the butcher occupation. HEHE. But it's not a problem. I can relook up the family knowing which ones I should be looking for unless anyone does it for you whilst I'm off doing stuff.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1896 (>99%)
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Lea Maurice Bertram Northampton 3b 86


Anyway, I've found Maurice Bertram on the 1911

1911 Census Record
Personal Information
Name Maurice B Lea
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Condition Single
GenderM
Age15
Estimated Year of Birth1896
OccupationSchool
EmployedY
Working at HomeN
Place of Birth
Northants Northampton
LanguageEnglish 0
Enumerator Information
AddressEfworth College Rhyl
TownEfworth College Rhyl
Number of RoomsX
InhabitedY
ReferenceRG14PN34126 RD623 SD1 ED10 SN105
Administrative CountyDenbighshire
Registration DistrictSt Asaph
Registration Sub DistrictSt Asaph
Enumeration District10
Reference Information Folio 147
Page 2
Piece 34126
RD number 623
SD number1
ED number 10
Schedule 105

And this about the park

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/domesday/dblock/GB-428000-318000/page/12

MAURICE LEA MEMORIAL PARK
Mr. Herbert Lea financed & opened the
park in l929 in memory of his son
Lieutenant Maurice Bertram Lea killed
in World War 1.The park is both well
used and well maintained & is valued
as a safe place for children to play.
It has facilities for bowling (flat &
crown),putting,tennis and there is a
children's play area offering swings,a
slide,spring bikes & a sandpit.There
is a fish pond and a bandstand (used
occasionally).It has a playing
field,formal flower beds & lawns
surrounded by a beautiful variety of
shrubs and trees.The park is used
for annual events such as The
Gresley Carnival,Sport For All &
other local fetes.There are numerous
benches on which to sit & enjoy
watching the gardeners at work & to
admire the seasonal changes or to
relax in the tranquil atmosphere.

Got him in the 1901 but only via FamilySearch. Maybe transcribed differently on GR
Maurice B Lea
England and Wales Census, 1901




birth:

31 Mar 1901
Kingsthorpe,? Northamptonshire,? England
name:Maurice B Lea
event:Census
event date:31 Mar 1901
gender:Male
age:5
relationship to head of household:Son
birthplace:Northampton
record type:Household
registration district:Northampton
sub-district:All Saints
ecclesiastical parish:St Matthews
civil parish:Kingsthorpe
county:Northamptonshire

Jill - is this the 1901 you're after?

LEA, Herbert Head Married M 38 1863 General Manager London Central Meat Co Ld Butcher Church Gresley, Derbyshire
LEA, Laura Wife Married F 33 1868 Potterspery, Buckinghamshire
LEA, Horace E Son Single M 10 1891 School Northampton
LEA, Clariss M Daughter Single F 8 1893 School Northampton
LEA, Doris E Daughter Single F 6 1895 School Northampton
LEA, Maurice B Son Single M 5 1896 School Northampton
SMART, Eliza Servant Single F 18 1883 Cook & Domestic Denton, Northamptonshire

Piece: 1428 Folio: 161 Page: 3
Registration District: Northampton
Civil Parish: Kingsthorpe

Address: 54, Kingsley Road, Kingsthorpe County: Northamptonshire

Goodness me all this information to take in! Thank you though! Does anyone know what the relationship is to a Bernard Lea, Church Greasley?? Married May E Lea, born circa 1886?? Too many of these Leas!! :-S

Hi.Am in Stratford on Avon at moment.Will look if I get back early enough or tomorrow.

You are a little star Jill!!! :-D

Hi MC

Thanks, that's the one. Hope you coped with the thought of me being called a star :-D :-D :-D

A sort of in-joke Tracy. Based around MC's non-sentimental thoughts. :-P

1891 Census Household Record

Household Information
Address Catchem Inn Road
Parish Church Gresley
District Burton Upon Trent, Gresley
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name Joseph Lea
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1860
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Coal Miner
Birth Place Gresley, Church
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 2
Name Sarah Lea
Age 29
Estimated Year of Birth 1862
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Swadlincote
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 3
Name Bernard Lea
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1886
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Gresley, Church
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 4
Name William Peters
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1872
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Occupation Earthenware Turner
Birth Place Newbold
Birth County Leicestershire


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1886 (>99%)
LEA Bernard Burton 6b 368

1901 Census Household Record

Household information
Address 31 Oxford Street
Civil Parish Church Gresley
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Church Gresley St George & St Mary
Parliamentary Borough or Division South Derbyshire
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Swadlincote
Administrative County Derby
Householder 1
Name Sarah Collins
Relation to Head of Family Mother In Law
Condition as to Marriage Widow
Age Last Birthday 79
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbysh Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Bernard Lea
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 15
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Clerk Commercial
Employment Status
Where Born Derbysh Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Joseph Lea
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 41
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Coal Miner Hewer
Employment Status
Where Born Derbysh Ch Gresley
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Sarah Lea
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 39
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbysh Ch Gresley
Language

And at this point Tracy I want to scream
:-| :-| :-| :-| :-| :-| :-| :-| :-| :-| :-| :-| :-| :-| :-D :-D :-D :-D

Bernard is in the meat industry. His father was in the mines. The Norhampton Leas were meat industry. There has surely to be some connection more than Maurice B's dad working in CG.

1911 Census Record

Personal Information
Name Bernard Lea
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Condition Single
Gender M
Age 25
Estimated Year of Birth 1886
Occupation Clerk General
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Meat Retailers
Place of Birth Church Gresley Derbyshire
Nationality British
Enumerator Information
Address 27 Lascotts Road Wood Green N
Parish Wood Green
Town N
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 6 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN7261 RG78PN354 RD132 SD2 ED16 SN155
Administrative County Middlesex
Registration District Edmonton
Registration Sub District Wood Green
Enumeration District 16
Reference Information
Folio 309
Page 1
Piece 7261
RD number 132
SD number 2
ED number 16
Schedule 155

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
Lea Bernard Read Southampton 2c 151
Payne Archibald A Pitts Southampton 2c 151
Pitts Eva A Payne Southampton 2c 151
Read May E Lea Southampton 2c 151

Found possible marriage on FreeBMD.

Then on FreeBMD again I input for births surname Lea with mother's maiden name Read. I found four. Three in Edmonton 1915,1917 and 1927 and one in Walsall in 1915. The Edmonton 1915 birth was March 1/4 and the Walsall one Dec 1/4.

The three Edmonton children seemed to have survived to some age. I can't find that any of them died before 1944.

There's a possible death for Bernard 1958 in Burton but this one has the middle initial J. Yob works out as 1885. He could just be Bernard Joselyn Lea born Stapenhill and age 26 on the 1911. So as he's on the 1911 he can't be the Bernard I've found in Edmonton who was born in CG.

I've sent you a pm for the possible children.

I've looked. I can't find Bernard's death so moving on to May E Read. Pick one if you know which one she is - or none of them.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1885 (>99%)
Read May Eveline Camberwell 1d 864
Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
READ May Ellen Norwich 4b 1[6_]3
Births Jun 1888 (>99%)
READ May Eva Hackney 1b 482
Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
Read May Evelyn Southampton 2c 39
Births Jun 1890 (>99%)
Read May Elizabeth Croydon 2a 221

Bernard's possible parents. I'm saying possible with all the Leas now :-D

24 Dec 1884 Church-?Gresley,? Derbyshire,? England
spouse: Sarah Collins
groom's name: Joseph Lea
bride's name: Sarah Collins
marriage date: 24 Dec 1884
marriage place: Church-Gresley, Derbyshire, England
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M01474-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

Same marriage one day difference but with more detail.

Joseph Lea
England, Marriages, 1538–1973

birth: 1859
marriage: 25 Dec 1884 Church Gresley,? Derbyshire,? England
parents: William Lea
spouse: Sarah Collins
groom's name: Joseph Lea
groom's birth date: 1859
groom's age: 25
bride's name: Sarah Collins
bride's birth date: 1861
bride's age: 23
marriage date: 25 Dec 1884
marriage place: Church Gresley, Derbyshire, England
groom's father's name: William Lea
bride's father's name: Joseph Collins
indexing project (batch) number: M06129-3
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1042087

Same marriage showing Swadlincote not CG

Joseph Lea
England, Marriages, 1538–1973

birth: 1859
marriage: 25 Dec 1884 Swadlincote,?Derby,?England
parents: William Lea
spouse: Sarah Collins
groom's name: Joseph Lea
groom's birth date: 1859
groom's age: 25
bride's name: Sarah Collins
bride's birth date: 1861
bride's age: 23
marriage date: 25 Dec 1884
marriage place: Swadlincote,Derby,England
groom's father's name: William Lea
bride's father's name: Joseph Collins
indexing project (batch) number: M13919-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1042087


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
Collins Sarah Burton 6b 612
LEA Joseph Burton 6b 612

Joseph Lea
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 06 May 1860 Church-?Gresley,? Derbyshire,? England
residence: Church-?Gresley,? Derbyshire,? England
parents: William Lea,? Mary Lea
name: Joseph Lea
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 06 May 1860
baptism/christening place: Church-Gresley, Derbyshire, England
father's name: William Lea
mother's name: Mary Lea
indexing project (batch) number: C04261-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number:

Births Mar 1860 (>99%)

LEA Joseph Burton 6b 311

And here we have him in the 1871. Read and see if it looks familiar.

AND HAVE YOU SEEN THE TIME? I am supposed to be painting walls and woodwork tomorrow :-D or rather today in a few hours time.HEHE


1871 Census Household Record

Household Information
Address Leas Row
Parish Church Gresley
District Burton Upon Trent, Gresley
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name William Lea
Age 53
Estimated Year of Birth 1818
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 2
Name Mary Lea
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1825
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Leicestershire
Birth County Leicestershire
Householder 3
Name William Lea
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1853
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 4
Name George Lea
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1856
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 5
Name Joseph Lea
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1860
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 6
Name Herbert Lea
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1863
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 7
Name John Lea
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 8
Name Susan Lea
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1868
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire

Not gone to bed yet. Have you seen this?

http://www.southderbyshirebdm.co.uk/stgstmmarl.html