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That's great. It eliminates the death anyway.

Thank you!

I think this could be the Lavinia who died in 1929, ie not your Lavinia, living in Middlesborough area in 1911.

Can't find your lass at the moment

Census 1911:

Address: 11 Cromwell Street North Ormesby Middlesbrough County: Yorkshire (North riding)

WARD, Philip Head Married M 43 1868 Labourer Gorefield Cambridgeshire
>>>WARD, Livinia Wife Married 21 years F 50 1861 Ramsey Huntingdonshire
WARD, Edith Daughter Single F 20 1891 Servent Domestic North Ormesby Yorkshire
WARD, William Son Single M 17 1894 Labourer North Ormesby Yorkshire
WARD, Albert Son Single M 12 1899 School North Ormesby Yorkshire
WHITE, William Boarder Single M 35 1876 Labourer Staindrop Durham

It all seems to fit! Obviously need to get marriage cert to confirm.

Also, I said yesterday I found a death for a Lavinia Ward in 1929 in Middlesbrough. It was 10 years out! But I can't find anything else for her. Can you see if she is single in the 1911?

Thank you again!

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Census 1911

Married 13 yrs , 5 children born, 2 living, 3 deceased.

Address: 5 Edward St Thornaby-On Tees County: Yorkshire (North riding)

REEVES, William Head Married M 34 1877 Dresser Iron Durham Stockton
REEVES, Sarah Wife Married 13 years F 33 1878 Yorks Thornaby
REEVES, Edward Son M 10 1901 Yorks Thornaby
REEVES, Amelia Daughter F 7 1904 Durham Stockton

and same family 1901:

Address: 11, Edward Street, Thornaby County: Yorkshire (North riding)

REEVES, William Head Married M 24 1877 Steel Dresser Stockton, Durham
REEVES, Sarah E Wife Married F 23 1878 Thornaby, Yorkshire
REEVES, Edward Son Single M 0 (1 MOS) 1901 Thornaby, Yorkshire

Yes me too! I found that death and another in the Middlesbrough. I can easily email the register office to confirm.

Also, I think this may be a marriage of one of her daughters. Can I ask for a look-up here also?

Thank you:

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
GOOD Jane Stockton 10a 144 Scan available - click to view
Reeves William Stockton 10a 144 Scan available - click to view
Sidaway Ephraim Stockton 10a 144 Scan available - click to view
Ward Sarah Ellen Stockton 10a 144 Scan available - click to view

Births Dec 1913 Whincup Hannah Ward Middlesbro 9d 1172

Named after granny?

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Name: Hannah Ward
Birth Date: abt 1844
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1932
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 692

Right sort of age, and right reg district for Thornaby where she was last seen in 1911 census, though obviously she could have moved on since then.

I'm also struggling with Sam(uel) W(h)incup.

Ah thank you again!

So Margaret suffered a lot of deaths also. Such sad lives.

Can you see a death for Hannah Ward? I have found possibles but struggled for her and Sam Whincup.

Census 1901:


Address: 1, Back Nile Street, Thornaby County: Yorkshire (North riding)

WHINCUP, Samuel Head Married M 28 1873 General Dealer York, Yorkshire
WHINCUP, Margaret Wife Married F 25 1876 Thornaby, Yorkshire
WHINCUP, Mary E Daughter Single F 8 1893 Thornaby, Yorkshire
WHINCUP, Robert Son Single M 5 1896 Thornaby, Yorkshire
WHINCUP, Caroline Sister Single F 14 1887 Thornaby, Yorkshire
REED, George Lodger Married M 24 1877 Labourer (In Foundry)
Darlington, Durham
REED, Emily Lodger Married F 25 1876 Tipton, Staffordshire
REED, Nelly Lodger Single F 3 1898 Thornaby, Yorkshire
REED, Emily Lodger Single F 0 (11 MOS) 1901 Leeds, Yorkshire

Census 1911

Married 17 yrs 10 children born, 4 living, 6 deceased

Address: 2 Nicholson St Thornaby on Tees County: Yorkshire (North riding)

WINCUP, Sam Head Married M 39 1872 General Labourer Out Door Yorks York
WINCUP, Margaret Ann Wife Married 17 years F 37 1874 Yorks Thornaby
WINCUP, Robert Son M 15 1896 Yorks Thornaby
WINCUP, Rosie Daughter F 8 1903 Yorks Thornaby
WINCUP, Sarah Jane Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Yorks Thornaby

And Rose sadly died from her clothes catching fire. Her mother, Hannah, was out hawking pots, and her sister Mrs Wincup was with her. What sad lives. (The North-Eastern Daily Gazette (Middlesbrough, England), Saturday, November 30, 1896.)

Can I now ask for a look-up for Mrs Wincup:

Margaret Ann Wincup ... born c. 1872 in Thornaby:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1892 (>99%)
MARSHALL Arthur Middlesbro' 9d 743 Scan available - click to view
METCALFE Margaret Ann Middlesbro' 9d 743 Scan available - click to view
Ward Margaret Ann Middlesbro 9d 743 Scan available - click to view
Whincup Samuel Middlesbro' 9d 743 Scan available - click to view

Ah now I understand. Excuse me!

You posted Mary Jane as born 1889, which is a little late for a father who died last qtr 1887.

However she is 13 in census 1901, with a possible birth year of 1888, which is feasible for a posthumous child.

Middlesborough reg district covered Thornaby, which is where most of the children seem to have been born.

Thank you for the death - I should probably call it a night. I missed that one but was looking in Stockton district (as the registers are with them currently).

Sorry, what do you mean in regards to Mary Jane's birth? I am looking for her but having difficulty ... quite a few options. And a possible death for Lavinia in 1929 in Middlesbrough but it is 10 years out. However, I can't see any other likely marriage or death.

I guess it depends on how accurate Mary Jane's age is?

Deaths Dec 1887 Ward Robert Middlesbro' 9d 388

If he died in Thornaby.

Deaths Dec 1896 (>99%)
Ward Rose 9 Stockton 10a 44 Scan available - click to view

I'm having difficulty finding a suitable death for Robert Ward, Hannah's husband ... can you help here?

Her poor daughter Maria Edwards had 3 children from her 7 year marriage, and had lost two by 1911.

I wonder where the other two Flewker grandchildren were in 1911? Only two are listed, but the image says four children born and four still living.

And yes, your assumption is correct - Hannah was married in 1868.

Oh wow - that is very helpful to know about Hannah's marriage and children! But how awful for the poor woman. She also had a brother and sister-in-law committed to asylums and their medical reports are not easy reading.

Just to add, Hannah's marriage details were crossed out in census 1911, as she was a widow, but they stated she was married 42 years (presumably 42 yrs ago from 1911), had 11 children of the marriage, of whom only 5 were still living.