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Hi all,

Looking for Clara Agnes Henderson, parents were James Henderson (1836) and Agnes Bayliffe (1843 but with various spellings of the surname).

I have Clara until 1901 with her parents in Lindale/Cartmel (Lancashire) where she was a gen. domestic servant. I believe from a cousin she went to South Africa (& got married but don't know if this was UK or SA), but can't find the passage or any marriage in UK for her.

Anyone got access to SA records or can help please?

Thanks in advance :-D

Sorry, I should have included the latest census for her:

Clara Henderson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Henderson
Mother's name: Agnes Henderson
Gender: Female
Where born: Allithwaite Upper, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Upper Allithwaite
Ecclesiastical parish: Lindale St Paul
Town: Lindale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Cartmel
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Piece: 4000
Folio: 86
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
James Henderson 64
Agnes Henderson 57
Clara Henderson 19
Maurice Henderson 13

But, I have Maurice and their parents from birth to deaths so only looking for Clara please.

name: James /Henderson/
gender: Male


Marriages (1)
spouse: Agnes /Bailiff/
Hide children (3)

child 1: Clara /Henderson/
gender: Female
EMIGRATION South Africa

child 2: James /Henderson/
gender: Male

child 3: Maurice /Henderson/
gender: Male

name: Agnes /Bailiff/
gender: Female
birth: 25 May 1841
Firbanks, Westmoreland, England
death: 1920
Lindale, Cumbria, England


Parents
father: Thomas /Bailiff/
mother: Eleanor /(Bailiff)/

name: Thomas /Bailiff/
gender: Male
birth: 1818


Marriages (1)
spouse: Eleanor /(Bailiff)/
marriage: Firbanks, Westmoreland, England
Hide children (8)

child 1: James /Bailiff/
gender: Male
BIRTH 26 January 1838
Firbanks, Westmoreland, England

child 2: Ellen /Bailiff/
gender: Female
BIRTH 23 June 1839
Firbanks, Westmoreland, England

child 3: Agnes /Bailiff/
gender: Female
BIRTH 25 May 1841
Firbanks, Westmoreland, England
DEATH 1920
Lindale, Cumbria, England

child 4: Sarah /Bailiff/
gender: Female
BIRTH 6 April 1851
Firbanks, Westmoreland, England

child 5: Jane /Bailiff/
gender: Female
BIRTH May 1858
Firbanks, Westmoreland, England

child 6: Thomas /Bailiff/
gender: Male
BIRTH 16 April 1854
Firbanks, Westmoreland, England

child 7: Mary Ann /Bailiff/
gender: Female
BIRTH 5 September 1852
Firbanks, Westmoreland, England

child 8: Elizabeth /Bailiff/
gender: Female
BIRTH 26 May 1858
Firbanks, Westmoreland, England

strangely, there were no dates on my posting of 15.20

Hi Ann, thanks for the input, but not the right Agnes (I have her birth certificate, parents William Bayliffe/Mary Butterfield), however where did the emigration for Clara come from please?

you say in your opening post her parents are James and Agnes

????
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Clara A Henderson
Name: Clara A Henderson
Birth Date: abt 1882
Age: 50
Port of Departure: Quebec, Canada
Arrival Date: 18 Jun 1932
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Cherbourg
Ship Name: Empress of Australia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Australia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific
Official Number: 145300

EDIT:- No! This one is noted on original as housewife, so Henderson is her married name.

There is this one however:-

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Miss Clara Henderson
Name: Miss Clara Henderson
Birth Date: abt 1882
Age: 31
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 5 Sep 1913
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Melbourne
[Adelaide]
[Durban]
[Cape Town]
Ship Name: Beltana
Search Ship Database: View the 'Beltana' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 131853

Sorry Ann, think I was a bit confusing. Clara's parents were James Henderson and Agnes Bayliffe, it was Agnes's parents who were William Bayliffe and Nancy Butterfield. Although I can't find a marriage for her parents even in parish registers but I have her bc.

Her mother Mary Bayliffe (nee Butterfield) was a "lodging house keeper" and Agnes had at least 4 children before she married James Henderson - with never a husband in sight! Agnes also had younger sisters - with no father recorded on their christenings according to the Cartmel parish records!

Hi Catherine,

Thanks for checking, much appreciayed, was there anyone elso travelling with her, or did she give a UK address/area please?

Sorry Flip,
Got distracted.
Original just states that she is a Nurse travelling from Melbourne.
There is also a Mrs. Marston with a child aged 2yrs old, so could be she was travelling with them, but nothing to proove it.
Sorry.

Thanks for checking Catherine, not very conclusive unfortunately. I'm really not sure about that passage as there was no connection to Australia that I know of.

I know records are being added to all the time, so could anyone check if there is any sign of her on GR or FMP - I've already done another check on Ancestry and Family Search but found nothing.

According to her brother Mauice, she definitely went to South Africa, but have had no luck so far in finding a UK marriage for her or a passage to SA under her maiden name. Maurice's son Leslie passed on this information before he died.

There were other family connections with SA because Maurice's wife's (Dora Kendall) sister Fanny Wilkinson, died in 1935 whilst her husband was in SA - he was a miner. Dora and Fanny's father Thomas Kendall was also a miner in SA, he died in Ulverston, Lancashire in 1905. But I have no way of knowing if any of this is relevant or connected.

What is Clara's date of birth please from the cert?

Dea x

Sorry Dea, I haven't got Clara's bc, just her mothers & brother Maurice (my ggdad)

Just know this was her birth registration:

Births Sep 1881 (>99%)
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Henderson Clara Agnes Ulverston 8e 764

Just thought I'd have another look for Clara, and googling her brought up some details on geni.com.

According to the site, she was born 15/8/1881, died 5/8/31 and was married to George Arthur Boyce (16/11/1871 - 22/12/1940). There is a dob for twins born 25/6/1917 - Edna & Eric in Transvaal, SA.

I've tried to verify any of the information, but so far no luck - could someone else take a look please?

This is the only possible emigration, if she went direct to SA

First name(s) C
Last name HENDERSON
Gender Female
Marital status S
Occupation NURSE
Departure year 1911
Departure day 25
Departure month 2
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port CAPE
Destination CAPE
Country SOUTH AFRICA
Destination country SOUTH AFRICA
Ship name ARMADALE CASTLE
Ship official number 118350
Ship master's first name J
Ship master's last name TYSON
Shipping line THE UNION-CASTLE MAIL STEAMSHIP CO. LTD.
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port SOUTH AFRICA

Thanks Jacqueline, that's a good possibility - I can't find a Boyce/Henderson marriage in England/Wales. Would also explain why she doesn't appear on the 1911 census. Was she travelling alone please?

I've found confirmation of the years of death for both Clara & George from SA archives, but no other details.