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Hello Argyligran So kind of you to send me this extra info.

Yes, it is very strange about John/Thomas Lambley. Before I posted for help I spent hours on free BMD trying to tie a poskitt to Lambley in marriages but found nothing helpful. I did find Jane Charlesworth marrying Edwin Green but at that point I didn't know Jane had married George Charlesworth prior to Edwin.

The only thing I can think of it may be a transcript error (typing John and not Thomas) though its even more of a puzzle that John Lambley's son is THOMAS?? He surely didn't marry under his fathers name..did he?

Thank you Argyligran for your help..I think this family are going to give me a few more problems in the future.

Jenny <3

The only strange bit is Sarah Ann Poskitt's marriage to JOHN Lambley in 1881.

The Sarah Ann married to Thomas Ellis(s) Lambley is the correct one.
Thomas is Thomas in all censuses 1861 - 1911, and also in birth and death records:

Births Mar 1859 (>99%)
LAMBLEY Thomas Elliss Bourn 7a 283

Deaths Dec 1938 (>99%)
LAMBLEY Thomas E 79 Rotherham 9c 646

1911 census says married 29 years, which could match with 1881 marriage.
But JOHN??

There's no marriage for a Thomas Lambley to a Poskitt.

His father's name was John.

1861 England Census about Thomas Lambly
Name: Thomas Lambly
[Thomas Lambley]
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Lambly
Mother's Name: Rebecca Lambly
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerby, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Great Gonerby
Town: Great Gonerby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Grantham
Sub-registration District: Grantham
ED, institution, or vessel: 23e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 55
Piece: 2353
Folio: 55
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lambly 31
Rebecca Lambly 26
James Lambly 5
Thomas Lambly 4
Sarah A Lambly 3
William Lambly 1

Hi Andrew,

I agree with your breakdown of all the info. I will definately send for Aunt Bets birth cert I'm sure it will confirm that her mother Jane was illegitimate born to mother Sarah Poskitt.

Thank you for your help I couldn't have sorted it alone

Jenny X

I just play about with all the names...if you limit the search to the local area, its not too many to search.

I think you still need Bettys BC to confirm the info, and work back from there. Its not an easy family to follow just looking at the records, so you need the certs to check its the correct line.

I think Jane born to Sarah Ann, out of wedlock, Sarah then marries John lambley.

Jane marries twice, first to George Charlesworth, then Edwin Green. Phew!

Andy

I have been reading through all your info and think I have it straight now in my mind. I agree it looks like Sarah had Jane before marriage to John/Thomas Lambley and thats where Janes Lambley connection is. I will check with the birth cert but feel sure YOU all sorted it out for me..which I always felt sure you would..

Sorted and happy....THANK YOU

This could possibly be George's death.

Civil Registration event: Death
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Name: CHARLESWORTH, George
Registration district: Rotherham
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1915
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 38
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 858

Thank you so much Andy, Shirley & Alviegal. I am going to get the birth cert for sure I am so intrigued and need to know. I have much more info to work with now and it will all become clear I'm sure.

THANK YOU AGAIN it is very much appreciated

Jenny XXX

That's what I was wondering as well Jennifer.

I don't know why the marriage is of a John Lambley when the name is Thomas Ellis lambley.

Wonder whether she was in fact Sarah illegitimate daughter and when she married she took her with her and then called her Lambley.

the birth cert will tell all

Hello Alviegal

I'm causing trouble again!!

Thank you too for helping me. I am wondering if....AH, wait a minute...Sarah Ann Poskitt married Lambley.. child Jane Eliz Lambley.. Adopts name Poskitt from mother Sarah and becomes Jane Eliz Poskitt Lambley

I think?? <3

wellAunt Betty mmn will be Poskitt not Charlesworth as that wasn't Jane,s maiden name .

I'm still here AMAZED with this new info..THANK YOU ANDY & SHIRLEY. Just been reading through the info several times.

Andy..HOW DID YOU FIND THE MARRIAGE? You are AMAZING!!!

Shirley..Wondering why they have two Janes in the family?

Still confused with the Lambley bit..Jane married Geo Charlesworth in 1900 he died 1917 (ok Got that) then 1920 Jane marries Edwin Green (Got that too) Aunt Bets mother listed as Poskitt not Charlesworth and no sign of Lambley...

THANK YOU ANDY & SHIRLEY I am so much more happier now..

I think this is the 1891 for her???


1891 census transcription details for: 2 Court 2, Main Street, Greasbrough, Rotherham
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 3853
Folio: 54
Page: 8
Reg. District: Rotherham
Sub District: Kimberworth
Parish: Greasbrough
Enum. District: 33
Ecclesiastical District: Greasbrough
City/Municipal Borough: Rotherham
Address: 2 Court 2, Main Street, Greasbrough, Rotherham
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
LAMBLEY, Thomas Elliss Head Married M 32 1859 Coal Miner
Grantham, Lincolnshire
LAMBLEY, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 28 1863
Worsborough, Yorkshire, Bridge
LAMBLEY, Jane Elizth Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Worsborough, Yorkshire, Park
LAMBLEY, Mary Ellen Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Parkgate, Yorkshire
LAMBLEY, Ernest Ar Son M 2 1889
Greasbrough, Yorkshire
LAMBLEY, Joseph Thos Son M 0 (3M) 1891
Greasbrough, Yorkshire


Thomas in 1881.

1881 census transcription details for: 7, New St, Rawmarsh
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 4679
Folio: 94
Page: 39
Reg. District: Rotherham
Sub District: Kimberworth
Parish: Rawmarsh
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 7, New St, Rawmarsh
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
TUKE, Ann Head Widow F 63 1818
Rawmarsh, Yorkshire
MIERS, Arabella Niece Single F 17 1864 Servant Domestic
Masbro, Yorkshire
MUSK, William Boarder Single M 49 1832 Carter
Suffolk
LAMBLEY, Thomas Boarder Single M 21 1860 Coal Miner



Sarah Ann in 1881???



1881 census transcription details for: Bradbury Buildings, Rawmarsh
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 4678
Folio: 137
Page: 64
Reg. District: Rotherham
Sub District: Kimberworth
Parish: Rawmarsh
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Bradbury Buildings, Rawmarsh
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
POSKITT, Joseph Head Married M 44 1837 Laborer
Wakefield, Yorkshire
POSKITT, Hannah Wife Married F 44 1837
Cawthorn, Yorkshire
>>POSKITT, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 16 1865
Wosbro, Yorkshire
POSKITT, Jane Daughter Single F 13 1868
Wosbro, Yorkshire
POSKITT, Ada Rebec Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar
Wosbro, Yorkshire
POSKITT, Ellen Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Wosbro, Yorkshire
POSKITT, Emely Daughter Single F 4 1877
Wosbro, Yorkshire
POSKITT, Hannah Daughter Single F 1 1880
Warsbro, Yorkshire
???POSKITT, Jane E Daughter Single F 0 1881
Wosbro, Yorkshire



Is Jane E possibly the daughter of Sarah Ann?

1891 England Census about Jane Eliz Langley
Name: Jane Eliz Langley
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Marston
Gender: Female
Where born: Pudsey, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Pudsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Pudsey
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:10 Roker Lane

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Bradford
Sub-registration District: Pudsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3657
Folio: 56
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Marston 28
Sarah Ann Marston 33
Jane Eliz Langley 11


Edit not the right family :-(

Another marriage to fit in somewhere?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
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HANDSON Alice Sarah Rotherham 9c 872 Scan available - click to view
HARGREAVES Gad Rotherham 9c 872 Scan available - click to view
>>>>LAMBLEY John Rotherham 9c 872 Scan available - click to view
>>>>POSKITT Sarah Ann Rotherham 9c 872


Andy

??


1911 census transcription details for: 118 Pottery St Rawmarsh Rotherham
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN28101 RG78PN1605 RD511 SD4 ED8 SN171
Reg. District: Rotherham
Sub District: Rawmarsh
Parish: Rawmarsh
Enum. District: 8
Address: 118 Pottery St Rawmarsh Rotherham
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CHARLESWORTH, George Head Married
11 years M 34 1877 Coal Hewer Miner Sheffield Yorks
CHARLESWORTH, Jane Wife Married F 30 1881 Wosperdale Yorks
CHARLESWORTH, George Son M 11 1900 School Rotherham Yorks
CHARLESWORTH, Herbert Son M 8 1903 School Sheffield Yorks
CHARLESWORTH, Ernest Son M 5 1906 Rotherham Yorks
CHARLESWORTH, Mary Ellen Daughter F 2 1909 Rotherham Yorks
CHARLESWORTH, Dorice Daughter F 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Rotherham Yorks



1901 census transcription details for: 26, Chapel Street, Rotherham
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4393
Folio: 75
Page: 55
Reg. District: Rotherham
Sub District: South East Rotherham
Parish: Rotherham
Enum. District: 18
Ecclesiastical District: St Stephens Eastwood
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 26, Chapel Street, Rotherham
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CHARLESWORTH, George Head Married M 24 1877 Coal Miner
Oughtbridge, Yorkshire
CHARLESWORTH, Jane E Wife Married F 21 1880
Worsper
CHARLESWORTH, George Son Single M 1 1900
Eastwood, Yorkshire

Andy..YOU are so clever how did you find the marriage record? Does that mean Jane married one of the two men. Still confused with the Lambley bit

Possibly death of George??


UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about George Charlesworth




Name:
George Charlesworth
Death Date:3 May 1917
Rank:Lieutenant
Regiment:Prince of Wales's Own (West Yorkshire Regiment)
Battalion:6th Battalion (Territorial)
Type of Casualty:Killed in action



Andy

Jane isnt at home in 1891

1891 England Census about Joseph Postritt
Name: Joseph Postritt
[Joseph Poskitt]
[Joseph Poskett]
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Postritt
Gender: Male
Where born: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Rawmarsh
Ecclesiastical parish: Parkgate
Town: Rawmarsh
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 6 Ashwood road

Occupation:Colliery banksman

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Rotherham
Sub-registration District: Kimberworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3852
Folio: 43
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Postritt 54
Hannah Postritt 54
Emily A Postritt 14
Hannah Postritt 11
Joseph Postritt 9
William Postritt 15
Robert Dickinson 20
Samuel Brown 23
Ada R Brown 21

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3852; Folio: 43; Page: 34; GSU Roll: 6098962.

1881 England Census about Jane E. Poskitt
Name: Jane E. Poskitt
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Poskitt
Mother's Name: Hannah Poskitt
Gender: Female
Where born: Wosbro, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Rawmarsh
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: Bradbury Buildings
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Rotherham
Sub-registration District: Kimberworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4678
Folio: 137
Page Number: 64
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Poskitt 44 occ labourer
Hannah Poskitt 44
Sarah Ann Poskitt 16
Jane Poskitt 13
Ada Rebec Poskitt 11
Ellen Poskitt 8
Emely Poskitt 4
Hannah Poskitt 1
Jane E. Poskitt

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4678; Folio: 137; Page: 64; GSU roll: 1342131.