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Hello David, welcome to the boards.

What about this death?

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985

Name: George Adolphos Carter
Death Place: Hawthorn, Victoria
Age: 74
Registration Year: 1933
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 8507
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859

Baptism:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: George Adolphus Carter
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Jan 1859 - born 25 Jan
Father's Name: George Adolphus Carter
Mother's Name: Eliza Carter
Parish or Poor Law Union: Finsbury St Luke
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

Difficult to make out address and father's occupation, looks like iron moulder?

This man was a cigar manufacturer on the original, no other info

ame: George Carter
Birth Date: abt 1859
Age: 52
Port of Departure: Australia
Arrival Date: 13 May 1911
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane
[Sydney]
[Melbourne]
[Durban]
[Cape Town]
Ship Name: Marathon
Search Ship Database: View the 'Marathon' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Aberdeen and Commonwealth Line
Official Number: 118184

And again travelling with Mrs Katherine Carter aged 64. Occupation home dutied.

He was a cigar maufacturer and the address they were travelling to was given as Regents Palace Hotel, London


Name: Mrs Katherine Carter
Birth Date: abt 1866
Age: 64
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 14 Jun 1930
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Hobart
[Colombo]
[Melbourne]
[Sydney]
[Adelaide]
[Hull]
[London]
Ship Name: Jervis Bay
Search Ship Database: View the 'Jervis Bay' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Aberdeen and Commonwealth Line
Official Number: 150187

I'm not sure if you want any of this ...his marriage. Presumable 'Kath' was the Katherine as above

George Adolphus Carter
Spouse Name: Kath Mary Tresea Mcneill
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1886
Registration number: 1646

In 1922 he went on his own to San Francisco, still cigar manufacturer,

e: George A Carter
Arrival Date: 1 Aug 1922
Age: 63
Birth Date: abt 1859
Birthplace: London, England
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: English
Ship Name: Sonoma
Port of Arrival: San Francisco
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Destination: St kilda, Australia
Last Residence: Australia
Archive information (series:roll number): M1410:163

In 1871 he was at home with his parents aged 12 and a cigar maker

I cant find anything between 1871 and his marriage in 1886

Edit *** Have you seen the photo of GAC on an Ancestry tree owned by Rob Walker

19/09/1895 George Adolphus Carter of 54 Victoria St, North Melbourne made application to use two designs as Trade Marks using the name Waratahon page 3284 of this link you can see the designs

http://gazette.slv.vic.gov.au/images/1895/V/general/113.pdf

A Waratah tobacco tine sold on Australian eBay on 19*05*2013 for 248.00 Aus Dollars and can be seen on the following link

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Waratah-tobacco-tin-British-Aust-Tobacco-Sydney-/271204606211

This link says that he left Great Britain, the country from which he belonged, on 20/04/1878 for NEW YORK. Sailed from Liverpool via Queenstown Ireland he went steerage. He is first name on the list George A Carter aged 20 Cigar Maker.

If this is correct when did he go to Australia?

http://www.immigrantships.net/1800/algeria780420.html

MarieCelest and Tenerife Sun, thank you both so much for your research into GAC. I will now have to digest all of the information you have provided and I will let you know how I get on from here.
Again, thank you for your efforts.
David

To add to the great work of MC & TS, here is George's death notice, from NLA Trove:

The Argus, Tuesday 17 October 1933
CARTER.—On the 14th October, 1933, at his residence, No. 37 Ryeburn avenue, Upper Hawthorn, George Adolphus, the dearly loved husband of Kate, and loving father of Ethel, Arthur, Stella, Haidee, and loving brother of Rose (Mrs. R. Christmas). (No flowers, by special request.)

He was interred that day (17th) at Box HIll Cemetery. See boxhillcemetery.org/mapguide/BoxHill/Public/

He is also mentioned in several new articles on Trove, e.g.

The Argus, Wednesday 13 March 1895
George Carter, cigar maker, Carlton, who at a previous sitting of the board had stated that American "convict-made" cigars were sold in Melbourne, now produced a box of American cigars so marked in proof of his assertion. He said he bought this box of 50 cigars for 5s. in a Melbourne establishment where there were about 2,000 similar cigars in sight. He was in the United States for some years, and he knew that prisoners there were contracted out to cigar manufactureres : and he also had a list of firms in North Germany who amongst them employed 1,400 prisoners. He suggested that the duty should be increased, or that the Victorian Government should take over the tobacco trade and control it just as it controlled the railways or the post-office.

The Register (Adelaide), Friday 25 November 1904
TOBACCO MONOPOLY,
THE CIGAR TRADE.
MELBOURNE. November 24.
The select committee of the Senate which was appointed to enquire into the question of the Government monopolizing the sale of tobacco met today. Evidence was given by Mr. George Adolphus Carter, cigar manufacturer, who stated that he had been 31 years in the trade. Assuming the output of cigars in Australia to be 47,000,000 the tobacco used in making them would be worth £93,839, and the cost of manufacture and distribution would be £229,843. The total revenue would be £697,775, and the total profit £467,969.

Zeehan and Dundas Herald (Tas), Thursday 4 January 1906
PUBLICATION DELAYED
OWING TO FIRE.
Melbourne, Wednesday.
A fire broke out at midnight on the premises in Patrick Lane, off Lonsdale street, occupied by George A. Carter, cigar manufacturer, and the 'Tocsin' newspaper. Great damage was done to Carter's stock, but the 'Tocsin' property was only slightly affected. Publication will, however, be delayed for a couple of days.

The George who arrived aboard Hampshire in 1872 was aged 14, and arrived with a Herbert CARTER, aged 11. No other Carter adults with them. :-( Are there any siblings listed with him on UK censuses?

His death notice mentions a sister Rose (Mrs Christmas).

Death for Rosamond CHRISTMAS in 1938 at Westgarth (Victoria), aged 77, daughter of George CARTER and Eliza HOOKER (reg 8379). She was interred at Burwood Cemetery.

The Argus, Friday 9 September 1938
CHRISTMAS.—On the 8th September, at Westgarth, Rosamond, loved wife of the late Alfred George Christmas and devoted mother of Rosamond, Alfred, Ethel, William, Kate, aged 77 years. —Peacefully sleeping.

UK marriage?

Marriages Mar 1884 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carter Rosamond Shoreditch 1c 183
Christmas Alfred Edward Shoreditch 1c 183

Children (born Edmonton UK):
Rosamond Ellen 1884
Alfred George 1886, d. 1948 Preston (Vic) aged 62
Ethel Louise 1899
Wiliam Hy 1893, d. 1976 Melbourne aged 83
Kate Eliza c1896, d. 1984 Malvern (Vic) aged 88 [did not marry]

Two chn's death reg's show father as Alfred George and one as Alfred Edward. Rose arrived in Melbourne with 4 of the children in Dec 1911, aboard 'Ballarat'. The two Alfred's appear to be missing from the list, but an Alfred G aged 25 arrived in March of the same year aboard Themistocles. Let me know if you would like marriages and chn for sons Alfred & Wm.

His wife died as Catherine CARTER, daughter of John McNEILL and Catherine CORNELL, in 1949, Upper Hawthorn, aged 84 (reg 11656).

The Argus, Tuesday 25 October 1949
CARTER.—On October 23, at her home, 37 Ryeburne avenue, Upper Hawthorn. Catherine (Kate), dearly beloved wife of the late George A. Carter, loving mother of Ethel, Arthur, Stella (Mrs. Hunter), and Haidee (Mrs. Eldridge). (Privately
interred.)

Well done Cherilyn I hope David sees this. Maybe it would be a good idea to pm him to say you have added to his GAC thread

Wendy

:-) Thanks Wendy, will give him a couple of days and then send a PM

By the by, were there any siblings with him in the 1871 census (ie Herbert and Rosamond)??

Siblings, but no Herbert:

1871 England Census about Henry Carter
Name: Henry Carter
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Carter
Mother's Name: Eliza Carter
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Columbia Haggerstone
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration District: Shoreditch
Sub-registration District: Hoxton Old Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household Schedule Number: 55
Piece: 459
Folio: 10
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
George Carter 38
Eliza Carter 35
Eliza Carter 14
George Carter 12
Roseman Carter 10 (Rosamond spelled Rosoman on image)
Henry Carter 8
James Carter 3

Nor in 1881:


1881 England Census about H. Carter
Name: H. Carter
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: George A. Carter
Mother: E. Carter
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England

Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 46 Forston St
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Occupation: Metal Worker

Registration District: Shoreditch
Sub-registration District: Hoxton New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 388
Folio: 91
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
George A. Carter 48
E. Carter 45
E. Brooks 24
H. Carter 17
J. Carter 13
J. Brooks 4
E. Hooker 62

Absolutely wonderful information Cherilyn!
The mention of GAC having been in the U.S. for a while explains some discrepancies I have come across.
Thank you all so much for your terrific efforts.
All the very best,
David