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I have just acquired a copy of the marriage certificate for John Wright to Susan Sandford. The certificate says that John's father was called Thomas Wright *who was a labourer). The marriage took place on 9th March 1852 at The Parish Church, All Saints, Warham. The problem is I cannot find any records related to John's parents (I thought I had them as Sarah Savory and John Wright). I would really like to know if anyone knows how to find a record of John's parents and/or when and where they were married.

I have found the 1851 census where it has Thomas as being a widow, but cannot find any record of a 1841 census except for a John Wright being married to a Sarah Wright with a son called John aged 14

Thank you

Name: John Wright
Birth Date: 1827
Birthplace:
Age: 25
Spouse's Name: Susan Sandford
Spouse's Birth Date: 1827
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 25
Event Date: 09 Mar 1852
Event Place: Warham All Saints, Norfolk, England
Father's Name: Thomas Wright
Spouse's Father's Name: John Sandford
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07344-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1472796
Reference ID: item 30 p 21

Isn't that the same info as is on the cert?

Caroline

Have you looked for baptism info on the IGI?

And can I just point out that there is no way of knowing the relationships between people in 1841............the info was not recorded.

Where was John born?

Who were the witnesses on that marriage cert please and are there any addresses?

Dea x

Isn't this the family??????

1851 census

Person: WRIGHT, John Address: Stittkey Road, Warham All Saints

WRIGHT, Thomas Head Married M 52 1799 Farm Labourer
Wighton, Norfolk VIEW
WRIGHT, Eliza Wife Married F 49 1802
Wighton, Norfolk VIEW
WRIGHT, John Son Unmarried M 24 1827 Shoe Maker
Warham, Norfolk VIEW
WRIGHT, James Son M 13 1838 Scholar
Warham, Norfolk VIEW
WRIGHT, Sarah Daughter F 11 1840 Scholar
Warham, Norfolk VIEW
WRIGHT, Horae Son M 9 1842 Scholar
Warham, Norfolk VIEW
WRIGHT, Caroline Daughter F 3 1848 Scholar
Warham, Norfolk VIEW Piece: 1826 Folio: 625 Page: 11 Registration District: Walsingham Civil Parish: Warham All Saints Municipal Borough:

What was John's occupation when he married???

Thomas's baptism can be found on the IGI...........I'll let you have the pleasure.

..............and his marriage!

Is this them ?

1861

John Wright

Age:34
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1827
Spouse's Name:Susan Wright

Where born:Warham, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish:Hackney St John
Ecclesiastical parish:West Hackney
County/Island:Middlesex


John Wright 34- shoe maker
Susan Wright 34
Robert Wright 8
Richard Wright 6
Robert Billing 16 - apprentice

Ummm...

1881

John Wright 54 - boot maker - Warham Norfolk
Mary Wright 51
Robert Wright 28
Agnes Wright 19
Alfred Wright 12


1871

John Wright 43 - boot maker - Warham Norfolk
Mary Wright 43
Robert Wright 18
Richard Wright 16
Agnes Wright 9
Alfred Wright 2



BUT ... father not Thomas

John Wright
Age:Full Age

Spouse Name:Mary Ann Hobbs

Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:10 Jun 1868

Parish:South Hackney St John of Jerusalem
Borough:Hackney
Father Name:John Wright <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse Father Name:Henry Hobbs
Register Type:Parish Register

Think I have done this wrong:
Reggie: What's the IGI? Thank you for your 1851 census, that seems to be the right family. John was a Shoemaker when he married.

Dea: The witnesses on the marriage certificate were Richard William Sandford, William Lodge and Mary Ann Lodge. There is no address other than Warham All Saints.

Mike: Thank you these census sheets I have.

Burial
County Norfolk
Place Warham
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 400
BurialDate 13 Jul 1865
Forename Elizabeth
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname WRIGHT
Age 64
Abode Warham All Saints

Burial
County Norfolk
Place Warham
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 478
BurialDate 08 Jan 1876
Forename Thomas
Relationship
Rel1MaleForename
Rel1FemaleForename
Rel1Surname
Surname WRIGHT
Age 80
Abode Great Snoring Union House
Notes Late Of Warham All Saints


Marriage
County Norfolk
Place Warham
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 41
MarriageDate 09 Mar 1852
GroomForename John
GroomSurname WRIGHT
GroomAge 25
GroomParish Warham All Saints
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Shoe Maker
GroomAbode Warham All Saints
BrideForename Susan
BrideSurname SANDFORD
BrideAge 25
BrideParish Warham All Saints
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Warham All Saints
GroomFatherForename Thomas
GroomFatherSurname WRIGHT
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer
BrideFatherForename John
BrideFatherSurname SANDFORD
BrideFatherOccupation Gardener
WitnessOneForename Richard William
WitnessOneSurname SANDFORD
WitnessTwoForename William
WitnessTwoSurname LARGE
Notes Married After Banns. Mary Ann Large Was Also A Witness


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(from above link, can be useful, Norfolk)

Chris :)

(witnesses)

County Norfolk
Place Warham
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 40
MarriageDate * Dec 1851
GroomForename William
GroomSurname LARGE
GroomAge 26
GroomParish Warham All Saints
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Labourer
GroomAbode Warham All Saints
BrideForename Mary Ann
BrideSurname SANDFORD
BrideAge 27
BrideParish Warham All Saints
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Warham All Saints
GroomFatherForename William
GroomFatherSurname LARGE
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer
BrideFatherForename John
BrideFatherSurname SANDFORD
BrideFatherOccupation Gardener
WitnessOneForename Richard William
WitnessOneSurname SANDFORD
WitnessTwoForename Peter
WitnessTwoSurname WRIGHT
Notes Married After Banns. Susan Langton Was Also A Witness

edits

Burial
Wright, Susan 14mar1866 39y

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~abneypark/abneyy.html

MORE PROBLEMS:::::

John Wright wife (Susan Sandford) died in 1866.
John re-married to a Mary Ann Hobbs on 10th June 1868 and the marriage certificate says John was a batchelor and his father's name was John!!

That's what I was pointing out @ 13.38

but you said you had those censuses records so have you also got that 2nd marriage cert ?

Not sure it's the same John

Maybe if he signed his name you could compare the signatures

Only got a copy of the marriage cert to Mary Ann Hobbs off internet

Possible 1841:

1841 England Census about James Wright

Age:4
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1837
Gender:Male
Where born:Norfolk, England
Civil Parish:All Saints Warham
Hundred:North Greenhoe
County/Island:Norfolk
Country:England
Registration District:
Walsingham

Sub-registration District:
Wells

Thos Wright 40
Elizabeth Wright 35
John Wright 10
Amelia Wright 10
Frances Wright 10
Caroline Wright 6
James Wright 4
Sarah Wright 1
Charles Wright 9

Here's Chris's hits - follow the path(s):
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
England, Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900 > Warham All Saints > Marriages > 1837-1901 > Image 22 of 61
plus
England, Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900 > Warham All Saints > Marriages > 1837-1901 > Image 21 of 61
[I read date as (1851) Dec 10]
England, Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900 > Warham All Saints > Burials > 1813-1901 > Image 28 of 39
England, Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900 > Warham All Saints > Burials > 1813-1901 > Image 33 of 39

Going back to the marriage of John Wright, his second wife may NOT have been Mary Ann Hobbs. All I have been able to find out is that Mary who was his second wife and had a child called Alfred (born 1869) Mary was born abt 1828 in Criplesham in Norfolk, as picked up from the 1871/1881 census's, so would appreciate any help in her surname> I have hunted and hunted, but no luck yet! :-( :-(

Going back to the marriage of John Wright, his second wife may NOT have been Mary Ann Hobbs. All I have been able to find out is that Mary who was his second wife and had a child called Alfred (born 1869) Mary was born abt 1828 in Criplesham in Norfolk, as picked up from the 1871/1881 census's, so would appreciate any help in her surname> I have hunted and hunted, but no luck yet! :-( :-(

Caroline, it does not look as if the marriage to Mary Ann is for your John. As you said it gives his father as John, a builder which is also John Jnr's occupation and he signs as John Wright Jnr, indicating that this John's father is actually John.

Did the family leave England as I can't find them after 1881