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My wifes great grandfather was John Berg, proprietor of the Cocoa Rooms in South Shields in 1884 when he married Jessie Forsyth. They had a daughter called Cecilia Berg. John's father was Joseph Berg, a farmer. We understand that Joseph and possibly John may have been born in Germany. Has anyone got Berg's in their ancestry?

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What do census records say about the birthplace?

have you found him in any census, not with wife and daughter in 1891 and 1901
Maddie

1891 is of no help

1891 census

Person: BERG, Cecilia Address: 7, Breamish Street, All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne

BERG, Jessie Wife Married F 36 1855 Living On Her Own Means
Scotland VIEW
BERG, Cecilia Daughter F 2 1889
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
LYTHGOE, Joseph Boarder Married M 32 1859 Lath Render
Rochdale, Lancashire VIEW
HILLS, Charles Boarder Single M 16 1875 Apprentice Shoemaker
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
KEMP, George W Boarder Single M 22 1869 Furniture Van Man
Carham, Northumberland

Possible death for Joseph

Deaths Sep 1889 (>99%)
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Berg Joseph 55 S. Shields 10a 443 Scan available - click to view
Berg Joseph 55 S. Shields 10a 485

Suggests yob c1834

Andy

Jessie died 1892 ?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Jessie Berg
Name: Jessie Berg
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1892
Age at Death: 39
Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 67

Cecilia married in 1919

Can't see her in 1901, but she is on 1911 census

There is another Berg family in Northumberland; this one gives his POB as Copenhagen, Denmark:


1911 England Census
about Henry Berg

Age in 1911:57

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1854
Relation to Head:Head
Birth Place:
Copenhakell
[Copenhaken, Denmark]
Civil Parish:Cowpen
62 High St Waterloo Blyth

Marital Status:Married

Occupation:
Dredyer Man Blytn Harboureraker Labourer (dredger man, Blyth Harbour)
Registration District:Tynemouth
Registration District Number:559
Sub-registration District:Blyth
Henry Berg 57
Isabella Berg 52
George Berg 21
Henry Berg 19
Lawren Berg 12
Annie Archibald 76 - wife's mother

He married Isabella Moss nee Archibald in

Name:Henry Bearg
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1885
Registration District:Tynemouth
Inferred County:Northumberland
Volume Number:10b
Page Number:233
Name

Henry Bearg
Isabella Moss

His marriage cert might help; if the father's name is Joseph he could be John's brother.

I guess this is his marriage as in opening post but I haven't foundanything else on him yet

John Berg
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1884
Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 184
Records on Page:
Name
John Berg
Jessie Forsyth

All the information you have posted is correct. No trace of John at all after Cecilias birth though he is stated in Cecilia's wedding to Herbert Beckett in 1919. Joseph died in South Shields in 1889.There is no mention of Henry in Cecilia's marriage certificate as a witness. Jessie died in 1892 just after the census - I cant find what happened to Cecilia after her mum died between 1891 and 2011. Where was John?

This one was born in Germany????


1881 England Census about John Berg
Name: John Berg
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship to Head: Lodger
Gender: Male

Where born: Frankfort For

Civil Parish: Bradford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Brearton Str

Occupation: Stuff Merchts Clerk
Registration District: Bradford
Sub-registration District: Bradford, West End
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4451
Folio: 60
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Hannah Mc Kenzie 59
John Berg 28

John didn't give a middle name in marriage record, so this may not be relevant?

Johann Joseph Berg, "Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898"

Name: Johann Joseph Berg
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 13 Jan 1850
Christening Place: ROEMISCH-KATHOLISCHE,ERWITTE,WESTFALEN,PRUSSIA

Father's Name: Joseph Berg

Mother's Name: Therese Achtermann

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C99755-6
System Origin: Germany-ODM
GS Film number: 938960

Wonder if this is why he doesn't show on 1891 census?

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about John Berg
Name: John Berg
Gender: Male
Age: 39
Birth Date: abt 1852
Departure Date: 23 May 1891
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Servia
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Servia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Master: Dutton

I've found a picture of John and Cecilia together, Cecilia looking about 6-7 years old, photo taken in Newcastle.

More info about John Berg - on the 1888 birth certificate of Cecilia his profession is shown as a 'Steward in Steamship' and on the 1919 marriage certificate of Cecilia as a 'Ships' Steward'

A daughter for Cecilia Berg and Herbert Beckett

Births Mar 1923 (>99%)
Beckett Delphia N Berg Newcastle T. 10b 128

Delphia was still in Newcastle in 1954 when she married

MarriageFinder™: Delphia N Beckett married Robert D Mansley [?]Name: BECKETT, Delphia NRegistration district: [?] Newcastle upon Tyne County: NorthumberlandYear of registration: 1954Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Spouse's last name MansleyVolume no: [?] 1B Page no: [?] 63

Name: MANSLEY, Robert DRegistration district: Newcastle upon Tyne County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1954 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-DecSpouse's last name: Beckett Volume no: 1B Page no: 63

Delphia Beckett is my wifes mother and Robert Mansley her father, both dead.

In 2002 Delphia Mansley was living in Dumbarton, Glasgow

In 1976 Robert was at the same address in Dumbarton re the Phone Book