Find Ancestors

I am looking for any info on john Samuel caudell. I know he had as daughter called Florence rose caudell b, 1899 married in 1917 in Liverpool to Benjamin Donohue. John,s wife may have been called norah Cole. I can,t seem to find the family on any census or marriage records. I believe john was not alive when Florence was married. Any help would be appreciated.

????

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1901
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CAUDELL John S CANTWELL Nora Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended Bolton RO/137/149

Could this be Norah?

1891 England Census about Norah Cantwell
Name: Norah Cantwell
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Stephen Cantwell
Mother's Name: Ellen Cantwell
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Halifax
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Baptist
Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Registration District: Halifax
Sub-registration District: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3587
Folio: 87
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Cantwell 39
Ellen Cantwell 37
Joseph Cantwell 17
Norah Cantwell 15
Esther Cantwell 7
John Cantwell 3
Susanna Cantwell 5/12

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3587; Folio: 87; Page: 16; GSU Roll: 6098697.

Maybe not as this is that girls marriage

Walter Bottomley abt 1872 21 Apr 1894 Halifax, St John the Baptist father Joseph Bottomley
Norah Cantwell abt 1875 21 Apr 1894 Halifax, St John the Baptist father Stephen Cantwell

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/Liverpool-Central/stcatherine/marriages_1910-1917.html

Marriage: 18 Jul 1915 St Catherine Abercromby Square, Liverpool, Lancs.
James Gardener - 20, Greengrocer, Bachelor, 56 Heath St.
Florence Rose Caudell - 17 3/4, Spinster, 56 Heath St.
Groom's Father: William Gardener, deceased
Bride's Father: John Samuel Caudell
Notes: Cancelled. This entry is incomplete owing to the marriage not taking place. [in
margin] [No date or signatures given]
Register: Marriages 1910 - 1917

(not sure if above relating?, from google)

Chris :)

This last post is very interesting. Does this mean that Florence was going to marry james gardener but the marriage didn't,t take place?

If Florence was born c1898/9 then that was before. The marriage which was in the
Sept qtr 1901

I don't,t think the first 2 posts are john Samuel caudell but I will keep my options open thanks.

Florence was born in 1897

Name: Florence Rose Donohue
Birth Date: 1 Nov 1897
Date of Registration: Apr 1999
Age at Death: 101
Registration District: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register Number: F25D
District and Subdistrict: 0251F
Entry number: 195

If you think John was deceased when Florence married..........have you looked for a death using freebmd?

That's what the record says!

Notes: Cancelled. This entry is incomplete owing to the marriage not taking place.

Thanks Shirley I was a year out

Hi Reggie yes I have looked for a death but can,t find one

have you found Florence's birth cert cos I,m not seeing it

could this be her mum??

Name: Nora Caudell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1915
Age at Death: 54
Registration District: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 159

????

Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
Cordell Florence Rose St. Saviour 1d 150


Births Jun 1865 (>99%)
Caudell John Samuel Lambeth 1d 362

According to Florence Rose's marriage in 1917 her deceased father had been a Racquet Maker. They hadn't got as far as completing his occupation on the aborted 1915 marriage.

Florence Rose' baptism:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Florence Rose Cordell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 17 Nov 1897 (born 1 Nov)
Father's Name: John Cordell - Lawn Tennis Maker
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Cordell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Southwark St Agnes
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address: 6 Royal Terrace.

Given that her father was a racquet maker when she (eventually) married then this must be the same girl - her mother isn't called Norah, though.

I think this is John in 1901 - name looks like Cordell on image:

CLARKE, Louisa Head Widow F 41 1860 Tailoress Crewe, Cheshire
CRAVEN, Furness Boarder Single M 28 1873 Iron Turner Halifax, Yorkshire
CODELL, John Boarder Widower M 36 1865 Athletic Outfitter Kennington, London

Piece: 3623 Folio: 77 Page: 13
Registration District: Bolton
Civil Parish: Bolton

Address: 6, Todd Street, Bolton County: Lancashire

EDIT: Bolton is where he married Norah Cantwell nee Cole later that year.

They do keep switching the spelling!

Her parent's marriage:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: John Samuel Caudell - Lawn Tennis bat maker of 40 Rushall Street
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Age: 19
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Jessie Duck of 58 Clayton Street
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 May 1884
Parish: Lambeth St Philip
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Danah Caudell (deceased) - Lawyer (or could be sawyer)
Spouse Father Name: Frederick Duck - Leather dresser
Register Type: Parish Register

Neither previously married.

Witnesses: John Cummings and Mary Sarah Hunt.

Her father's baptism:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: John Samuel Candell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 6 Apr 1870
Father's Name: Daniel Candell - Sawyer (Lawyer?)
Mother's Name: Tryphosa Candell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Kennington
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address: 4 Smith Street