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Eleanor De Casabianca

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Feb 2014 12:55

Different reports say different things.

This one says he died in April 1877 in Guy's Hospital, but I can't see a record of it. Maybe Louis didn't bother to register the death:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2158458/Murder-starvation-It-scandalised-Victorian-Britain-chilling-book-tells-fortune-grabbing-husband-forced-heiress-wife-baby-die-hunger-.html

Maybe Lilly wasn't Harriet's daughter? Harriet had an older brother James - maybe she's his?

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 21 Feb 2014 14:30

Have you managed to trace James Richardson? Must admit I haven't. I agree Lilly could have been his daughter, does make you wonder what happened to her.

I've looked for Willian G Howard b1863, I can't find anything else about him, seeing that he tried to make a claim on the Earldom in 1891/2 there must be something else out there about him?

It's a very interesting family, with lots of very interesting history.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 21 Feb 2014 16:16

Harping back to W G Howard and his claim to the Earldom, in 1892 the judge stated that a secure bond of £350.00 would be needed for the case to go forward from W G Howard, this was for future costs. The amount was argued down from £1500.00, I don't think WG had the funds to proceed.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 21 Feb 2014 16:49

This is mum Harriett with her half sister Eleanor (aka Nelly Holmes) who married Horace Pitt, Lord Rivers,


Historical Records
1851 England Census about Harriett Richardson
Name: Harriett Richardson
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Old Windsor
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Windsor
Sub-registration district: Egham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 200
Piece: 1695
Folio: 269
Page Number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
Eleanor Pitt 36
Harriett Richardson 33
Archibald Richardson 2 >>>> nephew born London
Harriett Jackson 23
James Mugridge 27
Emma Layton 19
Maria Themdel 42
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The inheritance that was left to Harriett who married Louis Staunton was from Lady Rivers, her aunt.

Tessa

Tessa Report 21 Feb 2014 22:47

just digesting all your information (think I will have need a lay down in a darkened room afterwards), it is some family, my grandmother if shes looking down must be chuckling away !! glad your enjoying the challenge, the second peerage case is news to us, we have alot of details of the first case, we think Eleanor Howard came up against the force of the british and irish aristocracy and didn't really stand a chance of winning, if you google the peerage case alot about it comes up, I have seen old pictures of Shelton Abbey it was a beautiful stately pile thinks its now some sort of reform school,
there was signet ring that belonged to my gt uncle that was mean't have had the Howard insignia on it, but when he was killed in a railway accident it was mean't to have been stolen, also my gt grandmother told her daughters that they should have all been riding around in carriages meaning in the days before cars they would have been a wealthy family, instead of a family who had its roots in the poorer side of London, so it all rests on any connection that can be found between my family the Cleggs and the Howards so far we haven't been able to find one, would love to find one as some of my family members used to ridicule my grandmother for trying to find out if the rumours were true. thankyou once again for all your detective help, its certainly a challenge