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Elliot

Elliot Report 2 Apr 2014 13:48

Ok, this is helpful Reggie! Thank you.

From the looks of it there, Lily Hillier got married and died in '86. That's definitely not the Lily that I'm looking for! My Lily had polio, never married and died

I think that I have got the wrong Liliy & Gladys!

Ok, here is what I know:

From what my dad remembers:
Lily & Glad were referred to as granddads 'Stepsisters'.
They were roughly the same age as, or perhaps slightly older than my granddad ( he was born 1920).
My dad recalled their surname as Fowler.
Lily had Polio, she never married and died somewhere around 1960/65.
Glad married a man named Len Hillier (I couldn't find this, but I did find a Gladys Hillier, marrying a Leonard Denby, around the right sort of time, hence why I went with the assumption that perhaps her maiden name was Hillier and that's what my dad was recalling.
They had a younger brother called John Fowler as well.

The documented facts are few: It basically boils down to my granddads service record as discussed earlier, which has the following under next of kin -
Stepfather (Illegible first name) Fowler
37 Irene Road
Fulham.
That has been crossed out and replaced with -
Step sister Miss. L. Fowler
15 Ackmar Road
Fulham.

15 Ackmar Road, is where my granddad lived and where my dad was born.

I should just say, my granddads mum apparently 'gave him away to a family down the road'. Grandads mum was Matilda May Leeds. She did get married to a Frederick Rogers and had two other kids with him. Both of whom were also given away, Frederick Jnr. my dad remembers him and the other child, Phillip, we only discovered through this website, he went to Barnados (I've checked with Barnados and they have no record of my granddad).

I'm sorry this is so complex lol!



:-S

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 2 Apr 2014 14:19

Just going to put this here in case my computer goes down again!

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about Gladys M Okeefe
Name: Gladys M Okeefe
Spouse Surname: Hillier (Edward J)
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1961
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 1066
.......................
Marriages Jun 1940
Fowler Gladys M O'Keeffe Fulham 1a 925
O'Keeffe Henry J Fowler Fulham 1a 925
.............................................
Marriages Dec 1945
Burman William R Fowler Fulham 1a 819
Fowler Lilian M Burman Fulham 1a 819
.....................

Births Jun 1923
FOWLER Robert E J Fowler Chelsea 1a 578
.........................

The above were living at 15 Ackmar with your father.

I think MAYBE they were the daughters of Edward James FOWLER and Annie...both born in Watford Herts.


Maureen

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 2 Apr 2014 15:22

OOPS! Sorry-here's the 1911:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
First Name LILIAN MAUD
Last Name FOWLER
Relationship DAUGHTER
Condition SINGLE
Gender Female
Year Of Birth 1903
Age 8
???? INVALID
Address 10 TERRACE GARDENS ST ALBANS ROAD WATFORD
Parish WATFORD URBAN
County Hertfordshire
Country ENGLAND
Where Born WATFORD
Archive Reference RG14
Piece Number 7704
Census Reference RG14PN7704 RG78PN380 RD140 SD2 ED6 SN144
Registration District WATFORD
Registration District Number 140
Sub District WATFORD
Enumeration District 6
SubDistrict Number 2
EDWARD JAMES FOWLER HEAD 1874 37 WATFORD
ANNIE ELIZABETH FOWLER WIFE 1867 44 CROYDON
?????GLADYS MAY FOWLER DAUGHTER 1905 6 PORTSMOUTH
.JOSEPH DRINKWATER VISITOR 1864 47 CROYDON
MARY DRINKWATER VISITOR 1865 46 GLOUSTER


I really dislike the new FMPast format!!!!!

Maureen

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2014 18:08

Death
Name: FOWLER, Lilian Maud
Registration district: Bromley
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1984
Month of registration: July
Date of Birth:1 November 1902
Volume no: 11
Page no: 822
Reg no: 784

Elliot

Elliot Report 2 Apr 2014 18:10

Maureen, I'm actually stunned!...And hugely grateful! This is definitely them!
They did all live at 15 Ackmar Road with my dad. Can you confirm that is the case? If so, when and how?

Also, yes, I think that Gladys & Lil must have been the children of Edward and Annie!

This is THE biggest breakthrough that I have had where this is concerned!

Thank you so much!!! x :-D

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 2 Apr 2014 21:15

Hi,
Sorry-been in and out.

From Ancestry-
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

For 1950 at 15 Ackmar

Burman Liliam M
Burman William R
Hillier Edward J
Leeds Alan
Leeds Doris M
O'Keefe Gladys M
Fowler Robert E J
Fowler Vera D
...........
Deaths Dec 1956
Burman Lilian M 53 Fulham 5c 465

Best,
Maureen

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Apr 2014 08:32

Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
FOWLER Robert E J Chelsea 1a 578

Marriages Sep 1943 (>99%)
Fowler Robert E J Morris Fulham 1a 652
Morris Vera D Fowler Fulham 1a 652

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Apr 2014 13:25

Death
Name: O'KEEFFE, Gladys May
Registration district: Waltham Forest
County: London
Year of registration: 1988
Month of registration: December
Date of Birth:16 May 1908
Volume no: 15
Page no: 604
Reg no: 1288