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A big thank you to everyone for all your assistance with this, once again you have shown the true worth of this site and that is the valuable work done freely by those who volunteer their time and go out of their way to help others with their research.

I shall be working on all the information that you have provided and hopefully be adding, not just quite a few more individuals to my tree - but another branch.

Thank you all once again :-)

Worked my way through the information for the Pick branch, now looking at the information from 1911 Census for the Empson branch which rootgatherer provided - and I am wondering, because I cannot find a mother's maiden name for Hope or any of the other Empson children, if this could be the marriage for Hope's parents :-S

First name MARY ANN
Last name ELLETSON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1888
Potential spouse's name(s) WILLIAM EMPSON
Spouse's last name -
District HULL
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9D
Page 509

Part of the 1911 which I posted overleaf. William and Mary Ann married for 22 years so marriage around 1888. The one you have found is probable but you would need the birth certificate of one of the children to confirm mother's maiden name.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Address 153 EDINBURGH ST HULL
Parish SCULCOATES
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East riding)
Country ENGLAND
Birth Place YORKSHIRE HULL

Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Age Year Of Birth Birth Place
WILLIAM EMPSON HEAD 42 1869 YORKSHIRE HULL Contractor
MARY ANN EMPSON WIFE 40 1871 YORKSHIRE HULL
HOPE EMPSON DAUGHTER 21 1890 YORKSHIRE HULL At Home<<<<<<<<
GEORGE W EMPSON SON 19 1892 YORKSHIRE HULL Brass Moulders App
EARNST EMPSON SON 17 1894 YORKSHIRE HULL Brass Finishers App
JOHN T EMPSON SON 15 1896 YORKSHIRE HULL
ELSIE EMPSON DAUGHTER 7 1904 -

Parents married 22 years 8 children born 5 alive, 3 have died

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If it's the right bride then this is probably her in 1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
JOHN ELLITSON HEAD MARRIED Male 35 1846 BRICKLAYER WALTHAM, ESSEX
ELIZ ANN ELLITSON WIFE MARRIED Female 30 1851 - NORTH SHILS, NORTHUMBERLAND
MARY ANN ELLITSON DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 11 1870 SCHOLAR HULL, YORKSHIRE
SARAH JANE ELLITSON DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 9 1872 SCHOLAR HULL, YORKSHIRE
ELIZTH G ELLITSON DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 8 1873 SCHOLAR HULL, YORKSHIRE
FLORANCE P ELLITSON DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 1 1880 - HULL, YORKSHIRE


Street ELIZAS TER WEST PARADE
Town -
Parish KINGSTON UPON HULL HOLY TRINITY AND ST MARY
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East riding)
Country ENGLAND
Registration District HULL
Archive Reference RG11
Piece Number 4768
Folio 146
Page 28

Is this one of the children who died pre 1911? Not finding him 1911 or in deaths though.

Lawrence Edmund Empson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 10 July 1906 St. Georges' Rd, Hull, York, England
residence: Hull, York, England
father: William Empson
mother: Mary Ann
Name Lawrence Edmund Empson
Gender Male
Christening Date 10 Jul 1906
Christening Place St. Georges' Rd, Hull, York, England
Birth Date
Birthplace
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's Name William Empson
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's Name Mary Ann
Mother's Birthplace
Mother's Age
Indexing Project (Batch) Number I03551-6
System Origin England-EASy
GS Film number 1895002
Reference ID

Found it - another spelling. Does look like an M on the Register.

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) LAWRENCE E
Last name EMPSOM
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1907
Age 2
Death quarter 1
Death year 1909
District SCULCOATES
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9D
Page 110
Entry number -
DOR -


Immediately underneath on the register is a Jessie Empson/m age 0
Sculcoates 9d 163

greyghost - firstly I must apologise for not giving you credit as well as rootgatherer for providing details of Empson family on 1911 Census, I did not scroll all the way back through the thread when I made my post.

As to that Lawrence Edmund Empson - I am pretty sure that must be one of the 3 children who died. It looks like come pension day at the end of the month I may have to bite the bullet and purchase Hope's birth certificate from GRO.

This genealogy lark is proving to be quite expensive, how I wish English records would provide the same amount of information as Scottish records - it would make life so much easier.

Scotland can still get expensive - I bought 30 credits yesterday from Scotland's People but it's so easy to "spend" those credits without really thinking about it - all those 1911 census.........not many credits left now!!

Most of my family research is based on Scotland, and I have spent a small fortune on Scotlands People since I started my research in 2012, especially on my 2 main branches, the Wotherspoon's and Clusker's, it was ok when I was working - but since I retired I have had to cut back substantially.