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Hi there,

I'm looking for more information on this chap here. Can anyone help? I.e. can a death be spotted?

I suspect his birth place is Bolton-le-Moor (Lancashire).

Could we find out more about his military career? Also, life before and after the army?

I THINK this may be a distant uncle of mine but not sure.

1851 England Census about Joseph Lever
Name: Joseph Lever
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Private Soldier (Private)
Gender: Male
Where born: Boltow le Moore, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Deptford St Nicholas
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Marine Barracks
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 1585
Folio: 215
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
James McKieman 23
Jesse Taylor 21
Thomas Montgomery 21
Alexander Traverse 22
Henry Hooper 23
John Mc Pherson 22
James Ross 26
James Plater 22
Samuel Harper 35
Hugh Jones 22
Fredrick Fanley 20
James Kean 33
William Bennett 30
James Clampet 21
Richard Nazathurst 24
Henry Whittaker 21
Henry Nurle 25
Joseph Bentley 20
Peter Walsh 24
George Croft 18
John Murray 21
Charles Baker 20
William Atherton 32
Patrick Mc Cann 24
Joseph Beasley 25
John Scott 20
Thomas Lowe 21
Francis Irving 23
William Barber 21
Stephen Saunders 23
Robert Greenfield 39
James Oughton 19
Richard Cunningham 23
John Pocock 25
James Grimes 25
James Alexander 28
George Young 22
Thomas Pollard 23
Thomas Turbyfield 23
Charles Hiscock 22
Edward Toy 25
Henry Cutter 32
Thomas Mobley 33
Edward Butler 35
John Skingle 25
William Stubbins 29
Joseph Pitts 25
Joseph Lever 25
William Coop 33
Robert Kershaw 26
John Palmer 28
John Bartlett 26
Thomas Barnard 28
James Haulen 24
Richard Garside 21
John Tosh 28
William Hall 14
Robert Martin 21
John Maloney 25
George Morris 35
William Grant 30
James Millard 23
John Blake 26
John Dick 21
John Connor 22
Thomas Larkin 23
Michael Durham 28
William Thornton 23
William Hancock 38
James Andrews 37
James Kilmister 30
Alexander Clarkson 27
Thomas Ware 36
George Harwood 23
Charles Adrill 22
John Bryant 38
William Eley 37
John Norton 36
Charles Loverty 23
William Smith 30
James Fletcher 27
George Cooper 36
Thomas Kelly 31
Charles Godfrey 22
Thomas Parr 45

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This could be him:

Name: Joseph Lever
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 16 Oct 1825
Christening Place: Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: William Lever
Mother's Name: Mary Lever

Thank you BeverleyW - at least we are working on the right lines. That is the assumption I came too. But, what becomes of him?

Thank you for starting the ball rolling.

Name: John Lever
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 10 Nov 1820
Christening Place: Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Birth Date: 02 May 1816
Father's Name: William Lever
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01962-8
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1966399
Reference ID: yr 1813-1822 p 73

Name: James Lever
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 10 Nov 1820
Christening Place: Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: William Lever
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01962-8
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1966399
Reference ID: yr 1813-1822 p 73

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Name: Robert Lever
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 30 Nov 1828
Christening Place: BANK STREET UNITARIAN OR PRESBYTERIAN,BOLTON LE MOORS,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 10 Aug 1828
Father's Name: William Lever
Mother's Name: Mary Lee
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C08640-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 0560877 (RG4 64, 2004)

Name: Joseph Lever
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 16 Oct 1825
Christening Place: Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: William Lever
Mother's Name: Mary Lever
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00754-4
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1966400
Reference ID: item 3 p 254

Ann that is amazing and shows why these boards are so important - I NEVER had heard of Robert before. I presumed all of the family were C of E, but obviously not. Wow, can we find out more about him also?

Thank you - wow, very happy here!

Also, would be nice to find the parents deaths if possible.

They seem to have lived in Great Bolton (I already have the other baptisms).

I also descend from James, baptised 1820, so don't to look into his line but I have no info on the other brothers etc.

maybe this one rather than the other

Name: Robert Lever
Event Type: Baptism
Christening Date: 30 Nov 1828
Christening Place: Bolton le Moors, Lancashire
Father's Name: William Lever
Mother's Name: Mary Lever
Affiliate Publication Number: RG4_2004

John and James may have been twins

no, don't think so - just christened at the same time

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Name: John Lever
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 06 May 1793
Christening Place: Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: James Lever
Mother's Name: Hannah Lever
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04084-2
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1966744
Reference ID: It2 Lever May 1793

for the record, the info I posted is from the free Mormon website - www.familysearch.org

Could be either of these two

1841

Joseph Lever
Age:15
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1826

Where born:Lancashire, England

Civil Parish:Bolton Le Moors
Hundred:Salford


Mary Lever 45 - washerwoman
Joseph Lever 15 - piecer
Mary Lever 10 - clipper

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OR ....


1841

Joseph Lever
Age:15
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1826

Where born:Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Bolton Le Moors

Hundred:Salford

James Lever 45 -paper maker
Mary Lever 40
John Lever 15 - blacksmith
Joseph Lever 15 - crofter
Alice Lever 14
James Lever 12
William Lever 10
Noah Lever 8
Ann Lever 4
Mary Lever 2

There is also this one where someone has made an amendment to the the record

1841
Joseph Runcorn
[Joseph Lever]

Age:15
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1826

Where born:Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Bolton Le Moors
Hundred:Salford


William Runcorn 45 - weaver
Agnes Runcorn 40
William Runcorn 15
Joseph Runcorn 15 - weaver
Edward Runcorn 12
George Runcorn 8
Agnes Runcorn 1 9 Mo



which would be on account of this marriage


Marriage: 25 Dec 1838 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
William Runcorn - Full, Weaver, Widower, Green Street L.B.
Agness Lever - Full, WIDOW, James St G.B.
Groom's Father: John Runcorn, Joiner
Bride's Father: William Blinkhorn, Mechanic
Witness: James Booth; James Liptrot

Ah they seem a confusing bunch! Erm, not sure where to go from here. Any ideas?

Sorry but just a little lost.

If you think he may be a distant uncle, then presumably he has a brother who is a direct ancestor of yours?
The direct ancestor's parents would be his as well, which would help us narrow down the search.

the Joseph Lever who was in the Royal Marines could have died while in the military

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Royal_Marines#Crimean_War_and_beyond

'During the Crimean War in 1854 and 1855, three Royal Marines earned the Victoria Cross, two in the Crimea and one in the Baltic. ... In the rest of the 19th Century, the Royal Marines served in many landings, especially in the First and Second Opium Wars (1839–1842 and 1856–1860) against the Chinese. These were all successful except for the landing at the Mouth of the Peiho in 1859, where Admiral Sir James Hope ordered a landing across extensive mudflats even though his Brigadier, Colonel Thomas Lemon RMLI, advised against it.'

however as Beverley said you really need to be tracing backward i.e. through your own ancestor to find whether he or she had a relation by this name, rather than starting from a person you think might be related to see what became of him ... he might not be related, or be related in some other way ...

Hi Beverley and JoonieClooney - thank you.

I think Joseph is a brother of my ancestor James, mention in AnnCardiff's posts. I already had those baptisms but as we were working forward with Joseph, not backward, that is why I never mentioned them.

How would I go about with obtaining Joseph's military records?

Joseph Lever, born Lancashire.

Attestation papers to serve in the Royal Marines at Woolwich 1845 (when aged 18).

Discharged [discharge date not given] as [discharge reason not given].

Date: 1845

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C10041421

(not digitised, only available to view at Kew)

(if him)

Chris :)