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I have been trying to trace my late Aunt's birthplace and the dates and places of her two (?) marriages. She had the married surnames of both "Strange" and "Scragg" but I can find no trace of either her birth (believed to be Knaresborough district) or any of her (supposed) marriages. She had a son in Cardiff - Anthony b/12/4/1931(now deceased). Her father Sydney Fisher B/ Walthamstow March 1887 and her brother ,my late Father, David B/Harrogate 1/9/1909. But curiously absolutely no trace of Elizabeth (later Bessie).Can anyone help please?

The birth for Anthony is registered twice - Fisher and Scragg

Is this your father?

1911 England Census
about David Fisher Name: David Fisher
Age in 1911: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Harrogate, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Harrogate
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 26 Denmark St
Registration district: Knaresborough
Registration District Number: 489
Sub-registration district: Harrogate
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Piece: 25927
Household Members: Name Age
William Conning 61
Charlott Conning 55
Lottie Conning 19
Tom Conning 16
Gertrude Fisher 25
David Fisher 1
Morris Fisher 21

It looks like Gertrude Fisher is his mother, she's married and is the daughter of William Conning.

Is this your father in 1911:


David Fisher
Age in 1911:1
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1910
Relation to Head:Grandson
Gender:ale
Birth Place:Harrogate, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Harrogate
County/Island:Yorkshire-West Riding
Country:England
Street address:26 Denmark St
Registration district:Knaresborough
Registration District Number:489
Sub-registration district:Harrogate
ED, institution, or vessel:22
Piece:25927

William Conning 61
Charlott Conning 55
Lottie Conning 19
Tom Conning 16
Gertrude Fisher 25
David Fisher 1
Morris Fisher 21

Sydney/Sidney George Fisher - if right one is on 1911 census but SINGLE

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Which is right location - Walthamstow, Essex or Harrogate

Use freebmd to look for marriage(s)

When did she die?

What was her surname at the time?

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The birth in West Ham for Sydney George Fisher in 1887 - includes Walthamstow - BUT he is on 1911 census as SINGLE

Need some feedback

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
Fisher Sydney George W. Ham 4a 267

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
DAVID T FISHER HEAD MARRIED Male 33 1858 PRINT ELECTROTYPER LONDON Image Transcription
FLORENCE E FISHER WIFE MARRIED Female 32 1859 - LONDON Image Transcription
DAVID J FISHER SON - Male 9 1882 SCHOLAR LONDON Image Transcription
HENRY H FISHER SON - Male 8 1883 SCHOLAR LONDON Image Transcription
FLORENCE E A FISHER DAUGHTER - Female 6 1885 SCHOLAR LONDON Image Transcription
SYDNEY G FISHER SON - Male 4 1887 SCHOLAR ESSEX
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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
DAVID T FISHER HEAD MARRIED Male 43 1858 ELECTROTYPER BERMONDSEY, LONDON Image Transcription
FLORENCE E FISHER WIFE MARRIED Female 42 1859 - HACKNEY, LONDON Image Transcription
DAVID J FISHER SON SINGLE Male 19 1882 SHIPPING CLERK BERMONDSEY, LONDON Image Transcription
HERBERT H FISHER SON SINGLE Male 18 1883 ELECTROTYPER BERMONDSEY, LONDON Image Transcription
FLORENCE E FISHER DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 16 1885 - BERMONDSEY, LONDON Image Transcription
SIDNEY G FISHER SON SINGLE Male 14 1887 ENGINEER WALTHAMSTOW, ESSEX Image Transcription

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
DAVID THOMAS FISHER HEAD MARRIED Male 53 1858 ELECTROTYPER LONDON BERMONDSEY Image Transcription
FLORENCE E FISHER WIFE MARRIED Female 52 1859 - LONDON HACKNEY Image Transcription
DAVID JOHN FISHER SON SINGLE Male 29 1882 INSURANCE AGENT LONDON BERMONDSEY Image Transcription
FLORENCE ED FISHER DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 26 1885 DRESSMAKER LONDON BERMONDSEY Image Transcription
SIDNEY GEORGE FISHER SON SINGLE Male 24 1887 ENGINEER TOOLMAKER ESSEX WALTHAMSTOW Image Transcription

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First name(s) SYDNEY G
Last name FISHER
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1921
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ SYDNEY G FISHER married
LILLIE V GOSTLING
Spouse's last name GOSTLING
District WEST HAM
County Essex
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 162


First name(s) SYDNEY GEORGE
Last name FISHER
Gender Male
Birth day 23
Birth month 12
Birth year 1886
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1971
District GIPPING
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4B
Page 2167

Reggie agree with all that which is why I am not sure that places add up

On the 1911 posted earlier....Gertrude claims to have been married for one year

Morris Fisher, born HUDDERSFIELD, is a visitor

However, there is no birth for the name registered in Huddersfield

Births Dec 1890 (>99%)
Fisher Morris Whitechapel 1c 281

No record of any BMD info for Gertrude Conning before 1940

Hi GB...............thanks for the feedback

Jon hasn't told us how he 'knows' the name of David's father

???

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Betty Strange
Name: Betty Strange
Birth Date: 19 Sep 1912
Date of Registration: Jul 2005
Age at Death: 92
Registration district: Lewisham
Inferred County: London
Register Number: B91A
District and Subdistrict: 242/1B
Entry Number: 195

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the 1921 marriage looks promising but then a child of that marriage could not have given birth in 1931

Does the poster have the 1931 birth cert ?

Assuming the 1911 is the correct David, there is this marriage:

Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)

CONNING Emily Gertrude Knaresbro' 9a 226 Scan available - click to view
FISHER Sydney Knaresbro' 9a 226

Baptism for the David in the 1911:


West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910

David Fisher

Parish:Harrogate, St Luke
Baptism Date:5 Dec 1909
Father's Name:Sydney Fisher - Soldier - presumably why is not with the family in 1911

Mother's name:Gertrude Fisher

As Elizabeth is not with the family in 1911, she must have been born later but no birth is coming up

Nice one Potty

So the man's name did not include GEORGE!!!!!!!

David's marriage - father shown as Gunnery Instructor:


West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
David Fisher

Birth Year: abt 1909
Marriage or Bann Date:14 Oct 1933
Parish:Harrogate, St Luke
Father's Name:Sidney Fisher
Spouse's Name:Ivy Robson
Spouse's Father's Name:Henry Knowles Robson

Both living at 26 Denmark St; no indication of whether Sydney was still living.

the hubby for that Betty was Ernest S Strange not Ernest E

Marriages Dec 1938
Strange Ernest S Fisher Westminster 1a 1350

Births Sep 1909
Strange Ernest Sidney Whitechapel 1c 233