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Has anyone got this gentleman on their tree?he was a champion Walker born around 1889.I've found the name with an address in Repton,derbyshire,and another placing him in Ilkeston....but no luck,even though he was supposed to be on the council at Ilkeston!I'd be really grateful if someone has any more details....especially his home town and his parents names,as he's supposed to be a cousin of my dads(died in 1962)....so he can't help me!....so I wait with bated breath!!! From "Pamela June" :-)

Have you checked the newspapers- there's a few articles on him late 1920s-1930

Hi Pamela June and welcome to the boards.

Have you checked out your Father's uncles to see if any of them had a son Fred/Frederick Poynter?

If you would like to give us the names and dates of your father's parents...perhaps we can take a look for you.

Prickles. :-)

If he is in a GR member's tree, you can find out by looking for his name in search all trees

There is a reference his being a candidate for a vacant seat at Ilkeston, but he was defeated in the election by a John Proctor

have you researched your father's family?

That's the best way to find out who is related to him.....or not.

Are these your parents?

Marriages Sep 1920 (>99%)
Hemming Florence M Poynton Aston 6d 1653
Poynton Henry R Hemming Aston 6d 1653

Your father?

POYNTON HARRY R 1894 1962 1962 Deaths & burials Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England


POYNTON HARRY RAYMOND 1894 — 1894 Births & baptisms Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
123, Wilmot Road, Church Gresley (Derby), Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
Charles Poynton Head Married Male 36 1865 Saggar Maker In Works Earthenware Hartshorne, Derbyshire, England Image Transcription
Sarah A Poynton Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Church Gresley, Derbyshire, England Image Transcription
Ada Poynton Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Church Gresley, Derbyshire, England Image Transcription
Charles Poynton Son Single Male 9 1892 - Church Gresley, Derbyshire, England Image Transcription
Harry R Poynton Son Single Male 7 1894 - Church Gresley, Derbyshire, England Image Transcription
Alfred Poynton Son Single Male 4 1897 - Church Gresley, Derbyshire, England Image Transcription
Walter Poynton Son Single Male 1 1900 - Church Gresley, Derbyshire, England

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cotterills Row, Blackfordby, Ashby-De-La-Zouch, Leicestershire, England


Print household transcription Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
James Poynton Head Married Male 62 1819 Potter Derbyshire, England Image Transcription
Sarah Poynton Wife Married Female 59 1822 Potters Wife Repton, Derbyshire, England Image Transcription
Charles Poynton Son Single Male 16 1865 Potter Hartshorne, Derbyshire, England

Joseph didn't produce a Fred

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street Station Road, Woodville, Woodville (Derby), Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
Joseph Poynton Head Married Male 45 1856 Potter Placer Hartshorne, Derbyshire Image Transcription
Jane Poynton Wife Married Female 43 1858 - Woodville, Leicestershire Image Transcription
James Edward Poynton Son Single Male 20 1881 Potters Placer Woodville, Leicestershire Image Transcription
Joseph Poynton Son Single Male 18 1883 Labourer Sanitary Pipe Works Woodville, Leicestershire Image Transcription
Tamer Poynton Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Labourer In Potters Warehouse Woodville, Leicestershire Image Transcription
John William Poynton Son - Male 12 1889 - Woodville, Leicestershire Image Transcription
Thomas Poynton Son - Male 10 1891 - Woodville, Leicestershire Image Transcription
George Henry Poynton Son - Male 6 1895 - Woodville, Leicestershire Image Transcription
Robert Poynton Son - Male 3 1898 - Woodville, Leicestershire

neither did Edward

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Grocers Shop, Burton Turnpike Road, Blackfordby, Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
Edward Poynton Head Widower Male 42 1859 Chimney Pot Maker & Grocer Hartshorne, Derbyshire Image Transcription
Alice Poynton Daughter Single Female 21 1880 - Blackfordby, Leicestershire Image Transcription
Edward Poynton Son Single Male 18 1883 Chimney Pot Maker Apprentice Blackfordby, Leicestershire Image Transcription
Ernest Poynton Son Single Male 15 1886 Sanitary Pipe Yard Odd Worker Blackfordby, Leicestershire Image Transcription
Flora Poynton Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Blackfordby, Leicestershire Image Transcription
Gertie Poynton Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Blackfordby, Leicestershire Image Transcription
Frederick Poynton Son - Male 9 1892 - Blackfordby, Leicestershire Image Transcription
May Poynton Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Blackfordby, Leicestershire Image Transcription
John Poynton Son - Male 6 1895 - Blackfordby, Leicestershire

Wonder if Robert did. Can't see him in 1891.

1861

Name: James Payton
[James Poynton]
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Payton
Gender: Male
Where born: Gresley, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Hartshorne
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Hartshorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Piece: 2268
Folio: 73
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
James Payton 42
Sarah Payton 39
Robert T Payton 19
Ann Payton 17
Mary A Payton 7
Joseph Payton 5
Sarah J Payton 4
Edward Payton 3/12


1881


Name: Robert Poynton
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Frances Poynton
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartshorne, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Smisby
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address: Church St
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Labourer Sanitary Pipe Works
Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Hartshorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3139
Folio: 52
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Poynton 39
Frances Poynton 38
Pheobe E. Poynton 11
William Poynton 10
Frances Poynton 8
Scharlotte M. Poynton 5
Henrietta Poynton 1
(not transcribed)

Here he is but no son Fred!

1891

Name: Robert Poynter
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny Poynter
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartshorne, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Blackfordby
Ecclesiastical parish: Blackfordby
Town: Blackfordby
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Hartshorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2509
Folio: 14
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Poynter 49
Fanny Poynter 49
William Poynter 20
Henrietta Poynter 11
Susan Poynter 1


So if Fred was your father's first cousin be may have been an illegitimate child of one of the girls?

Just reading Jacqueline's post again. Edward did have a son Fred. Here's that Fred living with his brother Edward in 1911


Name: Frederick Poynton
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Brother
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Blackfordby, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Ilkeston
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 19 Westwick St Ilkeston
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Coal Miner Loader Underground
Registration district: Basford
Registration District Number: 429
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Piece: 20418
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Poynton 28
Eliza Poynton 31
Arthur Edward Poynton 4
Frederick Poynton 19

And an article - Nottingham Evening Post 10 December 1928 reads:

Deaths:
Mr Joseph Poynton the winner of several important walking matches in 1877-88, Uncle of Mr Fred Poynton, the English walking champion, died at Woodville, Burton on Trent in his 74th year.

Oops!

Should have gone to Specsavers!

To try to redeem myself......

Frederick is in four GR trees

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Frederick Poynton Name:Frederick Poynton
Spouse Surname:Staniforth
Registration Year:1914
Registration Quarter:Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district:Basford
Inferred County:Nottinghamshire
Volume:7b
Page:331

Records on Page:

Fred Poynton
Frederick Poynton
Lucy Staniforth



British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Frederick Poynton Name:Frederick Poynton
Gender:Male (Occ: Coal Miner)
Birth Date:abt 1891
Birth Place:Boundary, Burton Leics
Marriage Date:14 Feb 1914
Marriage Place:Wesley Chapel South Christ Ilkeston
Age:23
Document Year:1914
Regimental Number:19925
Regiment Name:Notts and Derby (Sherwood Foresters) Regiment
Form Title:Short Service Attestation

Family Members

Relation to Soldier

Frederick Poynton Self (Head)
Lucy Stampith (Spinster) Spouse (Stanifirth on the image)

Next of Kin: Mrs Lucy Poynton...31 Graham Street, Ilkeston, Derby.

2 children...

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Poynton Phyllis Staniforth Basford 7b 411

Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Poynton Frederick M Staniforth Basford 7b 429