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I have come up against a brick wall trying to find out more about
Georgina May Vince, born March 1914 and
Charles W Vince, born March 1915
Both in Croydon. Parents also called Charles and Georgina, just to confuse matters!
They had a sister called Priscilla Gertrude and I have had better luck with her.

My question is, did they marry or have children? I would very much like to find this out for a relative of mine that was adopted at birth but closely related to these people, it would be lovely to find some living relatives, especially in the Croydon area.

Thank you very much for any help you may be able to give me.

Name: Charles William Vince
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1915
Date of Registration: Dec 1978
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Worthing
Inferred County: West Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 2191


Not seeing marriages for either of them. Have you checked on FreeBMD please?

Thank you for that. I have checked on free BMD this evening and didn't come up with any more. Also been on ancestory.co.uk and found out a little bit there. I think that Charles and Georgina shared a house in Croydon (Tilford Avenue) in the 1960s.
I know it is possible that neither married but it does seem unlikely doesn't it? Or am I just hoping for a different outcome?!

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Name:Georgina M Vince

Year:1965

County or Borough:Croydon

Ward or Division/Constituency:Croydon South

Street address:5 Montacute Road

Reference Number:LCC/PER/B/3003

Thank you Penny.

Just posting this to eliminate, as this is their mothers death.


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Georgina May Vince

Name:Georgina May Vince
Birth Date:6 Mar 1893
Date of Registration:Sep 1972
Age at Death:79
Registration district:Croydon
Inferred County:Surrey
Volume:5a
Page:1712

Andy

Georgina May Vince
1937 Epsom 43 Hillend



Georgina May Vince
1938 Epsom 43 Ashley Road

Just to confuse things.....

Births Sep 1908 (>99%)
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Vince Charles William Croydon 2a 420


and

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
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Barry Lilian Vince Wandsworth
Vince Charles W Barry Wandsworth 1d 1359


Andy

Charles and Georgina also appear to be sharing in 1963
116d Bensham Manor Road

Thanks everyone.

Andy, your last message looks very interesting but means nothing to me. Am I right in thinking many members of the same family used the same names in those days and you have possibly found some of my lot's relatives?

Hello
I can't seem to find any more information about Georgina May Vince, born March 1914 in Croydon. Is there anywhere else I can try? I have emailed the local studies department at the library there but can't think of where else to try.
Thank you in advance.
Susie

sorry, this is the mother, already posted.

Name:
Georgina May Vince

Birth Date:6 Mar 1893

Date of Registration:Sep 1972

Age at Death:79

Registration district:Croydon

Inferred County:Surrey

Volume:5a

Page:1712

All the Georgina and Charles E roll entries,could well have been mother and son, of course!

this gives actual birth date of Georgina


British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

Name: Charles Frederick Vince
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 4 Aug 1913
Marriage Place: Christ Church Croghan (Croydon)
Residence Place: 64 Greenside Rd W Croydon
Document Year: 1921
Regimental Number: 6079277
Regiment Name: B' Queens Royal Regt
Number of Images: 21
Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation


Name: Georgina May Vince

>>>>>>>>>Birth Date: 17 Dec 1913

Birth Place: Croghan (Croydon)
Document Year: 1921
Relationship to Soldier: Child
Form Title: Military History Sheet


could this be a possibility?

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005

Name: Georgina Vince
Spouse Surname: Smith (Harry)
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1953
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 709



?? (same birth date)

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Georgina May Smith
>>>>>>>>>>Birth Date: 17 Dec 1913
Date of Registration: May 1998
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Halifax
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register Number: B20C
District and Subdistrict: 0841B
Entry Number: 90

Surrey, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1945

Name:Georgina May Vince
Gender:Female
Year:1938
Country:England
County:Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency:Epsom
Place of Abode: 43 Ashley Road
Reference Number: CC802/55/3

living at the same address -

Alfred Ernest Bradshaw, Marie Marguerite Evelyn Bradshaw, Eileen Constance Gertrude Bradshaw, Elizabeth Galard, Annie Goalen, Fredrica Ellen Lawford, Florence Annie Hubbard, Maurice Henry Megrah and Jessie Megrah

Thank you so much Penny and Choccy. Of course, I had just assumed siblings living together, but Charles living with his mother makes much more sense, and I think the Georgina in Yorkshire is very likely. I hadn't realised that a child born in December 1913 would be registered in 1914, so that may have made my search more difficult.

Thank you for your help, it really is invaluable. I am waiting to hear back from local records offices in Yorkshire and Worthing, although I fear that will take a while. Will contact the local papers too for obituary notices as I found one for Priscilla Gertrude (their sister) which was very useful. I am keen to see if either Charles or Georgina had any children that may still be alive and possibly able to answer some questions for us.

The 1963 ER for 116d Bensham Manor Rd (posted by Penny) has Georgina M Vince and Charles F Vince, not Charles W. So her husband, not son.

They appear to have moved to 5 Tilford Avenue, in 1963 and were still there in 1965, so I don't think this gives a lead on the son Charles william.

According to that military record, Charles Frederick Vince gave a birth date of 24/8/1892 - he died in Croydon in 1969 confirming this dob.

The record also gives dob for Charles William of 20/2/1915 - which confirms the death already posted. Priscilla Gertrude was born 19/12/1920.

Also in Croydon in 1963 (54 Alton Road) was a Charles W Vince, and Dorothy M Vince. They are still at same address in 1965 along with Robert L P Vince. Robert was registered as "Y" - denoting he was not eligible to vote in elections prior to 1/10/1965.

These may be unconnected, but I can't see a birth for Robert, nor a marriage for Charles & Dorothy - could they have been abroad??

Pure speculation, but I wonder?????

Bearing mind his father enlisted again after the war, wonder if this could be him:

Lieutenant C Vince
Port of Departure:Bombay, India
Arrival Date:29 Jul 1947
Port of Arrival:Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage:Bombay
Ship Name:Empire Windrush
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Shipping line:New Zealand Shipping Company Ltd
Official Number:181561

Service number BC/16506 (IAOC), travelling with Mrs D Vince and 6 children but the problem is oldest is 19, then 17, 15,13 then a gap to the other 2 age 3 & 1. Maybe the older children were hers from a previous marriage?

A 3 year old would have become eligible to vote in 1965.

FMP has 2 children born (registered) in Singapore, mother's maiden name Roberts

Robert L P born 1943 and Charles Wm F born 1946

There is a marriage for Robert in Croydon in 1968