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Would any lovely person be able to check record of death of Alfred james Ritchie 1918-19 Middlesex England, as my ancestry memship has run out, but will be getting new one at Christmas.
Many thanks

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Alfred James Ritchie Name:Alfred James Ritchie
Probate Date:3 Jan 1919
Death Date:28 Oct 1918
Death Place:Middlesex, England
Registry:London, England

Of 5 Pemberton Row, Gough Square, Middlesex and of 108 Herne Hill, Surrey. Died at Herne Hill.

To Edith Ritchie......widow.

Effects: £11497 11s 2d

Let us know if you need any other information regarding this family.

There is a probate for son Geoffrey Oscar Ritchie if you don't already have it.

Prickles.

Is this him?

Name: Alfred James Ritchie
Record Type: Burial
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Death Date: abt 1918
Burial Date: 2 Nov 1918
Burial Place: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Comments: Reused graves at Norwood; see the database description for a link for more information.

Abode was 108 Herne Hill

Hi thank you loads for help, found button my threads lol.
Have everything on his life, but death as he went out to get cigarettes, never returned, his wife remarried after 1916. Haven't found him in 1911 census. On his son's wedding says born Scotland & on his wedding 1892, but given up on them after massive search. Will keep trying to find death for a while longer. Still not sure if fib about Scottish birth, but did find possible match in Scotland 1881 and still keeping as mine.
Shame not mine his wife was Jessie chambers

Where was he living when he went for cigs, and what year was that?

As his wife re-married she would have had to have him declared legally dead, which cannot be done until a person has been missing for seven years

Unless, of course, she lied on the second marriage cert, or there is a death cert for him

When was he born?

WHERE did he marry?

Hello dogsB - he claims to be born 1892 on his marriage, have I read that right?

But you're claiming an 1881 birth as his? Hmmm

What was his occupation, and his father's name and occupation on his marriage?

????


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, Lower Wood Street, Woolwich, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alfred Ritchie Head Married Male 28 1873 Machine Hand (R Arsenl) Scotland
Transcription
Jessie Ritchie Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Brighton, Sussex, England
Transcription
Alfred James Son Single Male 8 1893 - Woolwich, Kent, England

Ah, this is the marriage (no middle name for him)

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Alfred Ritchie - a labourer
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Age: 21
Spouse: Jessie Chambers
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Feb 1892
Parish: Holy Trinity, Woolwich
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: James Ritchie - a slater
Register Type: Parish Register

Neither previously married. Both give address as 41 Rope Yard Rails.

Jessie's father unknown as she is apparently an orphan.

Witnesses: William Henry Casser? and Frederick Thomas Street.

So there's no way an 1881 birth is him :-)

If he was born 1892, he couldn't have married much before 1908

Who was the son you refer to?

Where did he marry?

Which country's marriage certs record the birthplace of the fathers of the couple marrying?

ADDED

Birthplaces are not on English marriage certs, which is where both Alfreds married

So... - for reference - this would be him in 1901:


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, Lower Wood Street, Woolwich, London, England
Print transcription View image
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alfred Ritchie Head Married Male 28 1873 Machine Hand (R Arsenl) Scotland
Transcription
Jessie Ritchie Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Brighton, Sussex, England
Transcription
Alfred James Son Single Male 8 1893 - Woolwich, Kent, England

Dea x

Who did Jessie marry 'after 1916'?

I can't see any marriage for a Jessie Ritchie without a second initial before 1923, other than one in Gateshead, which seems unlikely

The son seems to have married in 1916

Where were Jessie and the son in 1911?

The probate I posted was for this Alfred James Ritchie......


1911 England Census
about Alfred James Ritchie Name:Alfred James Ritchie
Age in 1911:44
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1867
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Minster
Civil Parish:Lambeth
County/Island:London
Country:England
Street address:108 Herne Hill S E <<<<<
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:WHOLESALE NEWS AGENT
Registration district:Lambeth
Registration District Number:25
Sub-registration district:Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel:38
Piece:2087

Household Members:

Alfred James Ritchie 44
Edith Ritchie 40
Violet Edith Ritchie 14
Alfred Raymand Ritchie 12
Mabel Rosie Ritchie 10
Gilbert Victor Ritchie 7
Leonard Charles Ritchie 5
Geoffrey Oscar Ritchie 3
Lily Amelia Ritchie 2
Annie Read 17
Alice Maud Forey 16

So no........not yours.

Prickles. x

http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1309051?d=asc

(started off in Scotland on above!, relating?)

Chris :)

OK so much to take in ,james Ritchie born in Glasgow on 1881 Scottish census occupation Slater, and on on Alfred james Ritchie, marrige born Scotland around 1873 wife Jessie Emma chamber, there son was also named Alfred james Ritchie who married twice in his life. Jessie went on to marry Mr Eaton.

The 1892 marriage has NO second names for either of the couple, so please tell us why you think they have any?

And please answer the question about the whereabouts of Jessie and son in 1911...........

It's important

WHERE and WHEN did Jessie marry EATON?

You must back up your statements............

First name(s)
DANIEL
Last name
EATON
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1913

MarriageFinder™ DANIEL EATON married
JESSIE CHAMBERS

Spouse's last name
CHAMBERS
District
STEPNEY

Volume 1C
Page 466

Record set
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008

Thanks Choccy

So how is that thought to be Jessie RITCHIE?

The father Alfred's occupation was labourer in arsenel on both children's christenings - on the 1891 census (born Glasgow) he was a labourer (GL) not a slater. I would be pretty sure it is him - address is a boarding house 11 Rope Yard ? - both their addresses were Rope Yard at the time of their marriage.

On both christenings she is recorded as Jessie Emma Ritchie, and I think she was born 1873 Redhills, Reigate Surrey. in 1881 she was living in Brighton - a neice of Corneleus John Hilland, so if that was where she was brought up she may have put that as place of birth.

Have marriage certificate for Alfred and Jessie.
Son Alfred was in army in1991 not sure about his mother Jessie.
Jessie marriage was to Daniel he was also on Alfred's and to Elizabeth Minnie Larkin who died and he married Florence Margarette Robinson in 1930.