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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 12 Nov 2014 08:41

I thought Mark should be allowed to find it himself, which is simple enough

freebmd is accessible to all, and I gave him a hefty clue!

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BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 12 Nov 2014 08:09

His question presumably is the whereabouts of John J. Shuttleworth in 1881 and 1891 since he is not on the census.

Deaths Dec 1880 (>99%)
Shuttleworth John James 1 Bolton 8c 211

Researching:
Weedon - Australia, Hertfordshire; Paterson - Scotland; Elmer - Huntingdon; Ball, Lloyd, Warren - Birmingham; Branson - Bucks;

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 11 Nov 2014 16:13

This has been posted before, but perhaps you didn't notice it

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Halliwell Road, Halliwell, Bolton, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Shuttleworth Head Married Male 34 1857 Grocer Bolton, Lancashire, England Transcription
Catherine Shuttleworth Wife Married Female 42 1849 - Heaton, Lancashire, England Transcription
Alice Ann Edge Stepdaughter Single Female 12 1879 Scholar Halliwell, Lancashire, England Transcription
Annie Edge Stepdaughter Single Female 9 1882 Scholar Halliwell, Lancashire, England Transcription
William Edge Stepson - Male 6 1885 Scholar Halliwell, Lancashire, England Transcription
Ellen Shuttleworth Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Halliwell, Lancashire, England Transcription
Mary Shuttleworth Daughter - Female 4 1887 Scholar Halliwell, Lancashire, England

So.......................what is your question?

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Mark

Mark Report 11 Nov 2014 15:57

Yes but as I have the marriage certicate for my great grandmother and I am trying to establish if she had any siblings...

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 11 Nov 2014 15:54

Have you looked for info yourself.....anywhere?

Try freebmd.............ALL events

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 11 Nov 2014 15:51

Why c1879?

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1879
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SHUTTLEWORTH John J Western Bolton Bolton LILLEY WB/72/50

Is he with his parents in 1881?

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Mark

Mark Report 11 Nov 2014 15:43

Could I please ask for further help in locating John J Shuttleworth c1879 son of Joseph Shuttleworth and Elizabeth nee Lilley

Thanks

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Nov 2014 13:59

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about John Shuttleworth Name:John Shuttleworth
Death Place:Lancashire, England
Registry:Manchester, England

Of 398 Halliwell Road, Bolton. Iron Dresser

Died 13 August 1889 at the above address.

To Betty Shuttleworth of 398 Halliwell Road.......Widow the Relict

Personal Estate: £83

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Mark

Mark Report 9 Nov 2014 13:46

Thank you all for your help in this matter. As it is Sunday there is limited time only at the library which has now come to an end. I shall be back tomorrow. Your help today is much appreciated. Thanks

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Nov 2014 13:43

1881 England Census
about John Shuttleworth Name:John Shuttleworth
Age:55
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1826
Relationship to Head:Head
Spouse:Betsy Shuttleworth
Gender:Male
Where born:Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Great Bolton
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:59 Oak St
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Iron Dresser
Registration district:Bolton
Sub registration district:Bolton Western


Household Members:

John Shuttleworth 55
Betsy Shuttleworth 55
William Shuttleworth 21
James Shuttleworth 19
Richard Shuttleworth 17


??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about John Shuttleworth Name:John Shuttleworth
Registration Year:1846
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district:Bolton
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:21
Page:100

Records on Page:

Betsey Seddon
Betsy Seddon
John Shuttleworth





Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Nov 2014 13:28

Another baby who died??:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1882
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SHUTTLEWORTH Alice Eastern Bolton Bolton LILLEY EB/86/456

???
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1882
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
SHUTTLEWORTH Alice 0 Eastern Bolton Bolton EB/63/272

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Nov 2014 13:26

There are 3 boarders with Joseph and Catherine on the 1911 census.........

Ernest Nightingale 30
Mary Ellen Nightingale 34
Leonard Nightingale 5


Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
EDGE Mary Ellen Bolton 8c 647
NIGHTINGALE Ernest Bolton 8c 647

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

Andrew

Andrew Report 9 Nov 2014 13:24

Daughter Mary after her marriage


1911 England Census
about Mary Lily Niblett
Name:Mary Lily Niblett
Age in 1911:24
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1887
Relation to Head:Wife
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Bolton
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:40 Harvey St
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Weaver
Registration district:Bolton
Registration District Number:461
Sub-registration district:Halliwell
ED, institution, or vessel:15
Piece:23323
Household Members:
Name
Age

Joseph Niblett 3
Mary Lily Niblett 24
Joseph Niblett 2


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


NIBLETT Joseph Bolton 8c 557
SHUTTLEWORTH MARY LILY Bolton 8c 557


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Nov 2014 13:18

Young children to cope with, Margee! Ellen and Mary.

He'd also just lost a son as well as Elizabeth:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1889
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SHUTTLEWORTH Joseph Halliwell Bolton LILLEY HALL/34/232


Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 about Joseph Shuttleworth
Name: Joseph Shuttleworth
Birth Date: 16 Apr 1889
Age: 0
Baptism Date: 30 Apr 1889
Parish: Halliwell, St Thomas
Parish as it Appears: Halliwell, St Thomas
Father's Name: Joseph Shuttleworth
Mother's name: Elizabeth Shuttleworth
Reference Number: GB127.L144/1/1/1


???
Deaths Jun 1889 (>99%)

Shuttleworth Joseph 0 Bolton 8c 196

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 9 Nov 2014 13:16

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1884
SHUTTLEWORTH Ellen Eastern Bolton Bolton LILLEY EB/90/261

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1886
SHUTTLEWORTH Mary L Great Bolton Bolton LILLEY GB/2/463

Marriage: 28 May 1890 St Thomas the Apostle, Halliwell, Lancashire, England
Joseph Shuttleworth - (X), 33, Iron-moulder, Widower, 321 Halliwell Rd.
Catherine Edge - 41, Widow, 1 Cobden St
Groom's Father: John Shuttleworth, (Deceased), Iron dresser
Bride's Father: William Ainsworth, (Deceased), Crofter
Witness: William Ainsworth; Margarit Ainsworth
Married by Banns by: J. A. Young
Register: Marriages 1875 - 1899, Page 101, Entry 202
Source: LDS Film 2113163

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 9 Nov 2014 13:11

Did you notice, ArgyllGran that he remarried in the same quarter that his first wife died? Didn't waste any time, did he?

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Nov 2014 13:04

Sorry for confusing you, Mark!
I thought I had put it in clear time order.

Margee's reading of it is correct. At least, it's the same as mine!

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 9 Nov 2014 13:02

I would say that Elizabeth Shuttleworth nee Lilley died in 1890 and Joseph remarried the same year to Catherine Edge who already had Edge children.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Mark

Mark Report 9 Nov 2014 12:58

Sorry but I am confused now.......

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Nov 2014 12:49

Re daughter Mary Lilley Shuttleworth:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Mary Lilley Shuttleworth
Name: Mary Lilley Shuttleworth
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Bolton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 455

.
????
Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
Shuttleworth Elizabeth 33 Bolton 8c 202

????
Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
EDGE Catherine Bolton 8c 526
SHUTTLEWORTH Joseph Bolton 8c 526


1891 England Census about Mary Shuttleworth
Name: Mary Shuttleworth
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Shuttleworth
Mother's name: Catherine Shuttleworth
Gender: Female
Where born: Halliwell, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Halliwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bolton
Sub registration district: Halliwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3102
Folio: 89
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Shuttleworth 34 - grocer (temporary change of occupation!)
Catherine Shuttleworth 42 - b. Heaton, Lancs.
Alice Ann Edge 12
Annie Edge 9
William Edge 6
Ellen Shuttleworth 6
Mary Shuttleworth 4 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


1901 England Census about Mary Shuttleworth
Name: Mary Shuttleworth
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Joseph Shuttleworth
Mother: Catharine Shuttleworth
Birth Place: Halliwell, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Lever
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3631
Folio: 38
Page Number: 10
Household schedule number: 60
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Shuttleworth 43 - iron moulder
Catharine Shuttleworth 53 - b. Heaton
Henrietta Edge 21
Annie Edge 19
Mary Shuttleworth 14



1911 England Census about Joseph Shuttleworth
Name: Joseph Shuttleworth
Age in 1911: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bolton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 39 Cobden St Halliwell Bolton
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Oven Moulder <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration district: Bolton
Registration District Number: 461
Sub-registration district: Halliwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 23323
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Shuttleworth 58
Cathrine Shuttleworth 62

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

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