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ArgyllGran, having had a look at the 1841 census entries, they relate to locations in the fenland area of the county i.e. South East, rather than North West where Long Bennington is situated, so I don't think they are related. It struck me that if Maria was the mother, William might have been with her parents in 1841, but I have yet to trace who they were. I do have a William & Maria at Halloughton where Maria was supposedly born, but have found them on the 1841 census simply as a couple.

Chris/Astra, the William in the 1853 death is the son of Jesse, who is in fact from the Long Bennington Peatmans. Likewise the 1856 death is another William, this time an older adult male, is also a member from the same Peatmans. Many of the Peatmans lived in the Newark registration district although they were in Lincolnshire.

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Barkston
Church St Nicholas
RegisterNumber 375
BurialDate 08 Jun 1853
Forename William
Surname PEATMAN
Age 12
Abode Barkston

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place East Allington
Church St James
RegisterNumber 262
BurialDate 27 Sep 1856
Forename William
Surname PEATMAN
Age 61
Abode West Allington


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

(possibly above for them Astra, could also be below)

1851 (Find My Past) (Parish Barkston)
Jesse Peatman Head Married Male 38 1813 Garden Labourer Westborough, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Peatman Wife Married Female 30 1821 - Barkston, Lincolnshire, England
William Peatman Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Syston, Lincolnshire, England

I think you also have to consider the two William Peatman deaths in Newark Registration district in 1853 and 1856


Deaths Jun 1853 (>99%)

Peatman William Newark 7b 217


Deaths Sep 1856 (>99%)

PEATMAN William Newark 7b 191

Thanks for the additional info, which I will follow up. I think William may indeed have gone to Canada. His uncle was already in Montreal & I have traced some other census entries in that city consistent with him. If correct he went to Canada in 1852, which although he would only have been 12 is possible, given that his uncle was there. I haven't attempted to trace anyone in Canada before so I am feeling my way round to find sources of info.

I should have said the ages were usually rounded down in 1841!

There are a couple of William Savages born in Lincoln c1840, in the 1841 census, but without knowing the names of possible relatives/maternal grandparents, it's impossible to say if any of them are him.

hi
just wondered if william was born to maria out of wedlock as maria and joseph were not married and i found a birth for a william savage 1840 and that was maria's maiden name born in lincolnshire and then she changed his name for the christening because she was not married and john and ann said they were the parents perhaps you might find him in the census under savage

ArgyllGran, thanks for the clarification about the age mistranscription, I have come across 1841 census data with adult ages not rounded. I have located a John & Mary Coulson at North Carlton, given as place of birth for Ann, by way of some baptisms at the local parish church, no Ann, but the non-conformist bapt you found at Market Rasen could relate. The couple could have also migrated into Lincoln by 1841.

Ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 years, so Mary could have been anything up to 44 in 1841.
John's age is transcribed as 49, but it's actually 40 n the image.

ArgyllGran - census data consistently indicates Ann was born 1818, so this may be her parents, albeit Mary would have been quite young when she conceived. As you say it still doesn't locate William in 1841.

As William was christened in the church of St Nicholas in Newport, Lincoln, I would hazard a guess that these might be Ann's parents in 1841 - in which case he's not with them, either:


1841 England Census about John Coulson
Name: John Coulson
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1792
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: St Nicholas in Newport
Hundred: Lincoln
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Lincoln
Sub-registration district: Lincoln Home
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 651
Book: 14
Folio: 15
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
John Coulson 49
Mary Coulson 40
Mary A Coulson 10
Charles Coulson 8

Chris, yes the marriage of Ann followng the death of John does fit. The burial in 1846 is actually John's sister Ann rather than his wife.

Thanks ArgyllGran, I had just found the marriage on the Lincs Marriages database myself & started looking for John. For some reason I had the marriage as being at Long Bennington when it clearly was not. This perhaps makes the baptism in Lincoln a bit more credible as a child of John & Ann, but still doesn'ty explain where William was in 1841.

County Lincolnshire
Place Long Bennington
Church St Swithin
RegisterNumber 58
MarriageDate 25 Sep 1848
GroomForename Richard
GroomSurname KIRTON
GroomCondition Widower
GroomOccupation Laborer
GroomAbode Long Bennington
BrideForename Ann
BrideSurname PEATMAN
BrideCondition Widow
BrideAbode Long Bennington
GroomFatherForename John
GroomFatherSurname KIRTON
GroomFatherOccupation Laborer
BrideFatherForename John
BrideFatherSurname COULSON
BrideFatherOccupation Laborer
WitnessOneForename Charles
WitnessOneSurname KIRTON
WitnessTwoForename Ann
WitnessTwoSurname ?
Notes Banns


1851 (Find My Past)
Richard Kirton Head Married Male 35 1816 Agricull Labour Lincolnshire, England
Ann Kirton Wife Married Female 34 1817 - North Carlton, Lincolnshire, England
Thomas Peatman Son-In-Law - Male 9 1842 - Lincolnshire, England
Mary Kirton Daughter - Female 8 1843 - Lincolnshire, England
Mary Peatman Daughter-In-Law - Female 7 1844 - Lincolnshire, England
Charles Kirton Son - Male 1 1850 - Lincolnshire, England
House name Wheat Sheaf Inn
Parish Long Bennington
County Nottinghamshire
Registration district Newark
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 2138
Folio 100
Page 53

(wondering about above, fits with Baptisms, John Burial, but obviously not Ann Burial 1846)

Chris :)

This one's a possibility:

Ann Coulson
England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977
christening: 12 January 1818 Market Rasen, Lincolnshire
father: John Coulson
mother: Mary Coulson

Ann's father's name was John:

Anne Coulson

England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 1839 St. Paul In The Bail, Lincoln, Lincoln, England

father: John Coulson
spouse: John Peatman
other: Thomas Peatman

Some of you were posting whilst I was putting the last reply together. I haven't looked for William with his other grandparents, in fact I don't even have parents for Ann yet. I did think about the birth cert, but if John & Ann were prepared to pass themselves off as parents for the baptism, they may well have also reg'd the birth on that basis. The Quebec census entry is interesting as an earlier Peatman was in Montreal for many years & I note that Elizabeth daughter of Joseph & Maria is shown as born in Canada.

Thanks all, some of the information about John & Ann, & Joseph & Maria, is detail I hadn't turned up yet so will be useful. William does seem to be a bit of a mystery.

Marriages Sep 1839 (>99%)
COULSON Anne Lincoln 14 637
PEATMAN John Lincoln 14 637


Have you looked to see if William was with Anne's parents in 1841?

Maybe he too went to Montreal



Wm Peutman

Quebec Census, 1861

Name: Wm Peutman
Gender: Male
Event Place: Montréal (St-Jacques), Montréal, Quebec
Age: 20
Birth Year (Estimated): 1841
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Single
Religion: W Methodist
Page Number: 803
Affiliate Film Number: C-1239