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Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 159 Send Message	Zoe	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:01
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 159 Send Message	Hi, It's late so it's possibly just a concentration problem more than anything but... I have found a Rhoda Barnard (Born 1865 in Gloucestershire according to census) living with grandparents, Thomas & Mary Robert, in 1871 and I think she is a servant in 1881. She then married a William Knight and moved to Atherton in Lancashire. My problem is that I can't seem to find a record of her being born in or around 1865. Any advice gratefully received
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,659 Send Message	greyghost	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:14
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,659 Send Message	The marriage England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription First name(s) RHODA Last name BARNARD Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1885 MarriageFinder™ RHODA BARNARD married one of these people WILLIAM KNIGHT, EMMANUEL SIMMONS Spouse's last name - District WESTBURY ON SEVERN District number County Gloucestershire Country England Volume 6A Page 330
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,659 Send Message	greyghost	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:18
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,659 Send Message	Still in Gloucestershire in 1891. 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Haywood Lane, East Dean, Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Knight Head Married Male 30 1861 Coal Miner Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Rhoda Knight Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Gloucestershire, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Leonard J Knight Son - Male 4 1887 - Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Charles J Knight Son - Male 1 1890 - Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< original says born Plump, Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 6,166 Send Message	Jacqueline	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:23
	As there weren't any penalties for not registering births until 1875, there may not be a record. Look for a baptism What are you trying to find out?
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Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,261 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:25
	According to Findmypast Rhoda's grandparent's surname is Probert rather than Robert. Kath. x
Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 6,166 Send Message	Jacqueline	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:25
	Take note of the correct name for the grandparents, and then look for a marriage to Barnard. I assume you want to know who her parents were, without buying a cert 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Abbey Street, Flaxley, Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Probert Head - Male 56 1815 - Gloucestershire, England Transcription Mary Probert Wife - Female 55 1816 - Gloucestershire, England Transcription Harry Probert Son - Male 18 1853 - Gloucestershire, England Transcription Eliza Probert Daughter - Female 17 1854 - Gloucestershire, England Transcription Rhoda Barnard Granddaughter - Female 6 1865 - Gloucestershire, England Transcription William Blewett Lodger - Male 20 1851 - Gloucestershire, England Transcription Jesse Parker Lodger - Male 22 1849 - Gloucestershire, England
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Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 159 Send Message	Zoe	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:25
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 159 Send Message	Thank you for your replies.. Yes that is the family line I am tracing.. any luck in finding her birth or parents?
Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 6,166 Send Message	Jacqueline	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:26
	Didn't you take note of the info and advice?
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Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,261 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:27
	The 1901 census:- 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4, Sumner Street, Atherton, Leigh, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Knight Head Married Male 40 1861 Coal Hewer Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Rhoda Knight Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Leonard Knight Son Single Male 14 1887 Cotton Scavenger Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Charles Knight Son - Male 12 1889 - Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Elsie Knight Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England William Knight Son - Male 7 1894 - Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Frank Knight Son - Male 4 1897 - Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Olive Knight Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Atherton, Lancashire, England Emily Knight Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Atherton, Lancashire, England As has already been suggested, there may not be a birth record as there were no penalties for not registering a birth until 1875 so many people did not bother. Kath. x
Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 6,166 Send Message	Jacqueline	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:29
	Try this site................ http://www.forest-of-dean.net/ Or you could get a copy of her marriage cert, to find out her father's name
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Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 159 Send Message	Zoe	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:30
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 159 Send Message	Oh sorry Jacqueline.. when I posted only two of the posts showed up..
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,261 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:33
	This is the only Probert/Barnard marriage I can see - although it is quite a while before Rhoda was born (although not impossible for them to be her parents):- First name(s) CATHERINE Last name PROBERT Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1841 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ CATHERINE PROBERT married WILLIAM BARNARD Spouse's last name - District CRICKHOWELL District number - County Breconshire Country Wales Volume 26 Page 384 EDIT - don't think this Catherine Probert can be the daughter of Thomas and Mary Probert as if she was then she wouldn't be enough to be marrying in 1841. Kath. x
Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 6,166 Send Message	Jacqueline	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:33
	1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Ways Inn, Stanton Road, Coleford, Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Probert Head Married Male 41 1820 Inn Keeper Dixton, Monmouthshire, Wales Transcription Mary Probert Wife Married Female 40 1821 - Clifford, Herefordshire, England Transcription Mary Ann Probert Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 Dressmaker Redwick, Monmouthshire, Wales Transcription Elizabeth Probert Daughter - Female 14 1847 Scholar Newland, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Ellen Probert Daughter - Female 11 1850 Scholar Newland, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Henry Probert Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar Newland, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Eliza Probert Daughter - Female 7 1854 Scholar Newland, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Edward Jones Boarder Unmarried Male 25 1836 Agricultural Labourer Newland, Gloucestershire, England
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Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 6,166 Send Message	Jacqueline	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:34
	Ok, Zoe, I guess it all happened at once.........LOL I was a bit too quick off the mark...........
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Member Since: November 2013 Posts: 4,445 Send Message	JoonieCloonie	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:42
	Zoe did you take the advice of looking for a marriage of her parents Barnard + Robert? (oops, posts were being added as I composed, too!) http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl unfortunately there isn't one however I would say FMP's reading is correct and the grandparents' name is Probert (compare the R in Rhoda and the P in Parker in the same household) searching for Rhoda born in Westbury on Severn reg dist at about the right time I might consider this one Births Jun 1865 Barnett Rhoda Westbury S. 6a 200 the two surnames were commonly muddled so possibly Marriages Dec 1865 ? Barnett Tom Westbury S. 6a 426 ? Probert Elizabeth Westbury S 6a 426 Rudge Margaret Westbury S 6a 426 Thompson Robert Westbury S. 6a 426 edit - and that would fit with the Elizabeth Probert in the 1861 household
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Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 159 Send Message	Zoe	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:44
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 159 Send Message	:-) I did find a Rhoda Barnard born in Forest of Dean but it was 1872, which is too late.. however now I know it's Probert and not Robert, I'll have a look into that... Thanks for your help Kath & Jacqueline
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 159 Send Message	Zoe	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:46
Member Since: April 2003 Posts: 159 Send Message	Ohh thank you Jooniecloonie.. shall look into that too!
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,261 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:46
	In the 1861 census the grandparents DO have a daughter called Elizabeth, so I would say that is a good possibility Joonie. Kath. x
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,659 Send Message	greyghost	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:47
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,659 Send Message	This census shows her as born Cinderford. Plump (birthplace as per 1891 census) is about ½ way between Mitcheldean and Cinderford. 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Abbey Street, Flaxley, Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Probert Head - Male 56 1815 - Gloucestershire, England Mary Probert Wife - Female 55 1816 - Gloucestershire, England Harry Probert Son - Male 18 1853 - Gloucestershire, England Eliza Probert Daughter - Female 17 1854 - Gloucestershire, England Rhoda Barnard Granddaughter - Female 6 1865 - Gloucestershire, England William Blewett Lodger - Male 20 1851 - Gloucestershire, England Jesse Parker Lodger - Male 22 1849 - Gloucestershire, England For her to be granddaughter, the easiest explanation would be that a female Probert had married a male Barnard. The only one I can see is in 1841 in Crickhowell, Breconshire, Wales so couldn't be a daughter of Thomas and Mary. She may have not been registered, there were no penalties for not doing so until the 1870's EDIT - well late with this offering, reminds me to refresh before posting, but at least have had the same thoughts as others.
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 28,261 Send Message	KathleenBell	Report	7 Feb 2015 23:50
	Greyghost - I think JoonieCloonie may possibly have already found the correct birth and marriage for the parents. Kath. x

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