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Thank you again Yvonne.

Kind regards

Kathryn

) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
PAINE William G Springett Tenterden 2a 1651
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Paine Doris G Springett Tenterden 2a 1786 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1918 (>99%)
Paine Jack Springett Tenterden 2a 1321 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Paine Joyce Springett Tenterden 2a 1704 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1923 (>99%)
Paine Elsie Springett Tenterden 2a 1463 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1928 (>99%)
Paine Mary Springett Tenterden 2a 1512

Hello all, thank you so so much for all your time, help and the information provided. It is very much appreciated. Yes, I know what you are saying about the 1911 Census, it's just that I get so frustrated when I can't see something in black and white. I believe you, between you, have found all the info possible. I am now going to work on the children when I have time.

Once again thank you so much. It's amazing what another pair or two pairs of eyes can do when researching.

Kindest regards

Kathryn

This COULD be his death..........it's the only one I can see in Kent which fits the criteria, but that assumes he died in the County

PAINE GEORGE 1887 1947 1947 Deaths & burials Maidstone, Kent, England

The only info you don't have now is his death, and 1911 census wouldn't help with that.

You can find his mother's maiden name by using freebmd

Am wondering what info you think the census will give you . It will give his age and where he thought he was born other than that the marrige cert is your best bet as that should give his dad's name too ,if known .

Going on from that that tho the marriage info has been posted by Yvonne so there no need to buy the cert unless you want to of course

Grace,s death cert should state if she was wife or widow of so will give some start time to try to find his death

Elisha is a male name............not in any way strange

It first appears in the Bible

You may simply have to accept that the couple were not recorded in 1911........it happened

Hiya. Thank you so much for all this further information. Much appreciated. Yes, it is a strange name, certainly sounds/looks like a girly name. Where are Grace and George in 1911? I've been on this trail on and off most of the day. Will check for any
messages when I get home from work tomorrow evening.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Elisha Paine
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name: Elisha Paine
Age (Original): 39
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1842
Birthplace: Biddenden, Kent, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Agricultural Labr
Address: Biddenden Road
Event Place: Headcorn, Kent, England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 935 / 78
Page Number: 18
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Elisha Paine Head M 39 Biddenden, Kent, England
Harriet Paine Wife F 31 Frittenden, Kent, England
Albert Paine Son M 11 Frittenden, Kent, England
William Paine Son M 9 Biddenden, Kent, England
Arthur Paine Son M 8 Headcorn, Kent, England
Alice M Paine Daughter F 5 Biddenden, Kent, England
Elisha Paine Son M 0 Headcorn, Kent, England

Elisha Paine
England and Wales, Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: Elisha Paine
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1906
Registration District: Tenterden
County: Kent
Event Place: Tenterden, Kent, England
Age (available after 1866): 64
Birth Year (Estimated): 1842
Volume: 2A
Page: 492
Line Number: 237

hi
this could be fathers birth strange name for a man


Elisha Paine
England and Wales, Birth Registration Index
Name: Elisha Paine
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1841
Registration District: Tenterden
County: Kent
Event Place: Tenterden, Kent, England
Volume: 5
Page: 397
Line Number: 21

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Cottage, Lashenden, Biddenden, Tenterden, Kent, England

Elisha Paine Head Married Male 59 1842 General Agricultural Laborer Biddenden, Kent, England

Harriett Paine Wife Married Female 52 1849 - Frittenden, Kent, England

Elisha Paine Son Single Male 20 1881 General Agricultural Laborer Headcorn, Kent, England

George Paine Son Single Male 14 1887 Teamster On Farm Headcorn, Kent, England

Fred Paine Son - Male 11 1890 - Headcorn, Kent, England

Mabel Paine Daughter - Female 9 1892 Headcorn ,Kent

Deaths Jun 1906
Paine Elisha 64 Tenterden 2a 492

hi
found this says birth 1887

George Paine
England, Kent, Parish Registers
Name: George Paine
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Aug 1910
Event Place: Smarden, Kent, England
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Marital Status: Single
Birth Year (Estimated): 1887
Father's Name: Elisha Paine
Spouse's Name: Grace Springett
Spouse's Age: 17
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1893
Spouse's Father's Name: William Springett

Hiya, why are these things sent to try us, still suppose if all was straightforward we wouldn't be researching. Not sure why their not listed in the 1911 Census. I have tried different variations of the surname but nothing. Am so trying not to have to spend out for a Cert.

Kind regards

Kathryn

Still in the same area

First name(s) GRACE M
Last name PAINE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1894
Age 73
Death quarter 1
Death year 1967
District ASHFORD
County Kent
Volume 5F
Page 41
Country England

Thanks Shirley, am still looking for George Paine, suppose I ought to give up now. Ta for the info.

Kind regards


Kathryn

Deaths Jun 1906
Springett Mary Matilda 32 W. Ashford 2a 496

West Ashford reg district covered Smarden

Looks like her dad has remarried by 1911
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street Smarden, Smarden, Kent, England
William Springett Head Married Male 46 1865 Kent Smarden Postman And Cycle Agent
Elizabeth Springett Wife Married Female 40 1871 Kent London -
Elsie Springett Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Kent Smarden -
Gertrude Springett Daughter Single Female 14 1897 Kent Smarden -
Arthur Springett Son Single Male 11 1900 Kent Smarden School
Phoebe Springett Visitor Married Female

Image States married under 1 year

William has stated though he has 4 children all still living

Hi again, It certainly looks like I'll have to send off for the Cert. Am just searching myself on various other sites. If I come across anything I'll post on here.

Kind regards


Kathryn

I'd hoped Grace might be with her parents, and mistranscribed, in 1911, but that's not the case