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is there any way to find out if emma died in an asylum my friend said her mother told her she suffered mental health problems and she was only 12yrs when her mother died this must be her death


Deaths Dec 1912 (>99%)
Booth Emma E 49 Romford 4a 558

if you could help thank you

Is this the marriage - to give an idea of possible area and ages

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) ALFRED
Last name BOOTH
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1885
MarriageFinder™ ALFRED BOOTH married one of these people
MARY ANN HICKS, EMMA ELIZABETH BROWN
District BETHNAL GREEN
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1C
Page 547

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
95, Mansfield Street, Shoreditch, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alfred Booth Head Married Male 36 1865 Labourer Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Transcription
Emma Booth Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Transcription
Alice Booth Daughter - Female 12 1889 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Transcription
Jessie Booth Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Transcription
Alfred Booth Son - Male 9 1892 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Transcription
Emma Booth Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Transcription

Municipal ward Kingsland
Registration district Shoreditch
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 281
Folio 81
Page 42

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
89 Madstone ST, Shoreditch, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
W A Booth Head Married Male 49 1862 Shoreditch Bricklayer Labourer
Ellen Booth Daughter Married Female 24 1887 Shoreditch - <<<<<<<<<<
Ellen Booth Daughter Married Female 24 1887 Shoreditch Paper Sorter
Jessie Booth Daughter Single Female 20 1891 Shoreditch Paper Sorter
Alfred Booth Son Single Male 18 1893 Shoreditch Printer
Emma Booth Daughter - Female 11 1900 Shoreditch School
Alice Booth Daughter Single Female 22 1889 Shoreditch Cigar Works
W J Ellett Son In Law Married Male 28 1883 Shoreditch Saw Mills Labourer


Registration district Shoreditch
Registration district number 16
Subdistrict Shoreditch North East
Subdistrict number 3
Enumeration district 10
Piece number 1373

Married 26 years 6 children born and still living

I think the W in WA Booth is actually Mr A Booth

And it's Maidstone Street.

It does say Alfred is Married, so need to look for Emma

<<<<<<<<<<<actually says William Booth son aged 8

Daughter Ellen married William J Ellett 1910 Shoreditch

hi
thank you that is them i cant find emma on the 1871 and 1881 census wanted to find her parents names i know emma died when daughter emma was a child

Emma Elizabeth Brown

in the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Record Image View

Name: Emma Elizabeth Brown
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Age: 21
Spouse: Alfre Booth
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 Apr 1885
Parish: St Thomas, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Brown
Spouse Father: James Barth
Register Type: Parish Register

He's a labourer, 34 Quaker St., Spitalfields, father, James Booth not Barth, a plasterer.
Her address 83 Kingsland Rd., father a cabinet maker.

The address is correct here and William is a cabinet maker:

William Brown

in the 1881 England Census

Name: William Brown
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Elizabeth A. Brown
Gender: Male
Where born: Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 83 Kingsland Rd
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Cabinet Maker
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub registration district: St Leonard
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 385
Folio: 98
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
William Brown 46
Elizabeth A. Brown 45
William Brown 24
Sydney Brown 15
Arthur Brown 10
Jessie Brown 8
Henry V. Brown 4
John Bolton 23

Looks like Emma could have knocked a couple of years off in later census?

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hoxton Street, Shoreditch, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Brown Head - Male 35 1836 - Wiltshire, England
Elizabeth Brown Wife - Female 34 1837 - Wiltshire, England
Frank Brown Son - Male 16 1855 - Wiltshire, England
William Brown Son - Male 14 1857 - Hampshire, England
Alice Brown Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
Alfred Brown Son - Male 10 1861 - Wiltshire, England
Emma Brown Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Wiltshire, England
Sidney Brown Son - Male 6 1865 - Middlesex, England
Herbert Brown Son - Male 2 1869 - Middlesex, England
Arthur Brown Son - Male 0 1871 - Middlesex, England

Emma in 1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
34, Pitfield Street, Shoreditch, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Harry Reading Head Married Male 33 1848 Mantle Maker Hampshire, England
Mary Reading Wife Married Female 33 1848 - Dorset, England
Jessie Reading Daughter Single Female 8 1873 - Middlesex, England
Emma Brown Servant Single Female 18 1863 Genl Servant Wiltshire, England

Possible birth?

Births Dec 1862 (>99%)
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BROWN Emma Elizabeth Alderbury 5a 194

hi
thank you all for finding census

William Brown
mentioned in the record of William Brown and Elizabeth Dyer
Name: William Brown
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Dyer
Event Date: 02 Oct 1853
Event Place: Saint Edmunds,Salisbury,Wiltshire,England
Father's Name: Thomas Brown
Spouse's Father's Name: William Dyer

Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: 1862
BROWN Emma E Britford History Centre (Mother Maiden Name) BRINE BRIT/8/180


Marriages Sep 1855 (>99%)
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BRINE Elizabeth Ann Salisbury 5a 344
Brown William Salisbury 5a 344


Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1855
BROWN William BRINE Elizabeth A Salisbury Register Office or Registrar Attended History Centre SAL_RO/2/193

(if relating)


http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Chris :)

1891 (Find My Past)
Alfred Bootle Head Married Male 28 1863 Bricklayer Labourer Middlesex, England
Emma Bootle Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
Ellen E Bootle Daughter Single Female 5 1886 - Middlesex, England
Alice L Bootle Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Middlesex, England
Leslie Bootle Daughter Single Male 1 1890 - Middlesex, England
Street Watsons Place
Parish Shoreditch
County London
Registration district Shoreditch
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 251
Folio 144
Page 76


Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
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Booth Jessie Shoreditch 1c 41

(any thoughts Yvonne?)

Chris :)

hi chris
thank you for help

that is the right family name spelt wrong but the leslie born 1890 says daughter single male 1 this is my friends family she says there was no mention of a leslie who was her mothers sibling could leslie have died or could be the wrong family

Jessie as Birth posted (wrong name on Census!)

Chris :)

Name: Jessie Elizabeth Booth
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 16 Feb 1890
Father's name: Alfred Booth
Mother's name: Emma Elizabeth Booth
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 9 Jan 1890
Alfred is a bricklayers labourer
3 Hudson Place

hi
thanks for finding that it was jessie not leslie

is there any way to find out if emma died in an asylum my friend said her mother told her she suffered mental health problems and she was only 12yrs when her mother died this must be her death


Deaths Dec 1912 (>99%)
Booth Emma E 49 Romford 4a 558

if you could help thank you

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UK, Lunacy Patients Admission Registers, 1846-1912

Name: Emma Booth
Gender: Female
Admission Date: 18 Jun 1910
Institution: Claybury
Intitution Place: Essex, England
Death Date: 21 Dec 1912<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Death Place: Essex, England

She died in Claybury Asylum

"The Asylum was built to accommodate 800 male and 1,200 female pauper lunatics, and had over 20 acres of floor space. The sexes were strictly segregated. On admission, each patient was examined and photographed. Male patients were issued with three suits of clothing - two for everyday working wear, that is, one for summer and one for winter, and one for Sundays - as well as an Inverness overcoat. The women had no specific uniform."

More at:

http://ezitis.myzen.co.uk/claybury.html

"Claybury Hospital was a psychiatric hospital at Woodford Bridge in Essex. It was opened in 1893 making it the fifth London County Council Asylum

Claybury was built from 1889-1893.The land was previously used for chickens.The architect was George Thomas Hine; Peter Cracknell describes it as the first Compact Arrow design. Situated on the brow of a hill, the site incorporated around 50 acres (200,000 m2) of ancient woodland and 95 acres (380,000 m2) of open parkland, ponds, pasture and historic gardens. These had been designed in 1789 by the landscape architect Sir Humphry Repton for the owner, James Hatch, of what was then called the Claybury Estate. "Claybury" was the name given to a fictitious village in the stories of W. W. Jacobs, but is generally thought to be based on nearby Loughton, where Jacobs lived.

From 1893 it was known as London County Lunatic Asylum, Ilford."

Ilford comes under Romford Reg District, so it seems pretty likely this is Emma Elizabeth. her admission date of June 1910, also explains why she was not with her family in census 1911 as posted earlier in the thread.

This seems to be the 1911 census entry for Emma Booth, in the Claybury Hospital/Asylum, which tallies with the record above, and with the information provided by other posters on the thread :

Name: E Booth
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Salisbury, Wiltshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Ilford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: London County Lunatie Ashlum, Claybury, Woodford Bridge, Essex<<<<<
Marital Status: MarrieD<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration district: Romford
Registration District Number: 191
Sub-registration district: Ilford
ED, institution, or vessel: 61-63
Household schedule number: 41

EDIT: on the 'infirmity' column on the census image it says "Lunatic at 44", which may give some indication as to how long her problems had been going on.

Most of the other patients also have the same "Lunatic at" followed by an age, which is not their age at time of the census. One person on the page is recorded as an imbecile.

Photos of buildings etc here:

http://thetimechamber.co.uk/beta/sites/asylums/london-county-asylum-claybury