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Jane
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29 Mar 2015 12:16 |
Please can some see if they can find this family on the 1911 census. There may be a child called Hilda Gray with them. Can you tell me if she is their child and where she was born.
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1901 England Census about Thomas Gray Name: Thomas Gray Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann Gender: Male Where born: Burton Stather, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Sculcoates Sub registration district: Drypool ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 103 Household Members: Name Age Elsie M Gray 3 Mable Gray 5 Sarah Ann Gray 33 Thomas Gray 35
Thank you for helping me
Jane
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29 Mar 2015 12:20 |
1911:
Sarah Ann Gray Head Widow Female 42 1869 Meaux Yorks Washerwoman Mabel Gray Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Gainbrough Lincs - Thomas Stephenson Gray Son - Male 10 1901 Hull Yorks School Hilda Gray Daughter - Female 4 1907 Hull Yorks - John Woollas Boarder Single Male 43 1868 Springthorp Yorks Dock Labourer
ddress 4 Alexandra Terrace Woodhouse St Hull Parish Sculcoates County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East Riding) Country England Registration district Sculcoates Registration district number 521 Subdistrict Drypool Subdistrict number 6 Enumeration district 15 Piece number 28672 Schedule number 162 Census reference RG14PN28672 RD521 SD6 ED15 SN162
It's crossed out, but says married 19 years 5 children, 3 living
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29 Mar 2015 12:25 |
Thank you Gritty
That is a great help.
Jane
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29 Mar 2015 13:51 |
???
Births Jun 1907 (>99%)
GRAY Hilda May Sculcoates 9d 213
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malyon
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29 Mar 2015 14:02 |
this looks like thomas gray's death
Thomas Gray England and Wales, Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name: Thomas Gray Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1901 Registration District: Howden County: Yorkshire Event Place: Howden, Yorkshire, England Age (available after 1866): 35 Birth Year (Estimated): 1866 Volume: 9D Page: 61 Line Number: 276
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29 Mar 2015 14:05 |
These are the only deaths I can see for a Thomas Gray in the East Riding of Yorkshire, 1901-11, to fit with his age at 1901 census.
But neither of these can have been Hilda's father.
Deaths Jun 1901 (>99%) Gray Thomas 35 Howden 9d 61
Deaths Dec 1904 (>99%) Gray Thomas Martin S 38 Selby 9c 526
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ArgyllGran
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29 Mar 2015 14:09 |
Death of Elsie???
Deaths Sep 1904 (>99%) GRAY Elsie Mary 7 Sculcoates 9d 143
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Catherine
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29 Mar 2015 14:40 |
Death for Elsie would seem to be the correct one as this is her baptism:-
Name: Elsie Mary Gray Gender: Female Baptism Date: 1897 Baptism Place: Burton On Stather, Lincoln, England Father: Thomas Gray Mother: Sarah Ann FHL Film Number: 1542184 Reference ID: - 2:2T4L729
................which shows her middle name is Mary.
A tree on ancestry gives her date of death as 1904. It also gives this for Thomas:-
Birth: 1866 - Lincolnshire Death: 24 June 1901 (24 Jun 1901) - Goole, Yorkshire, England Spouse: Sarah Ann Stephenson
..........as it gives the exact date I would think that they have the certificate but it is a private tree so can't view.
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29 Mar 2015 14:43 |
Thank you all very much for all your help.
I've been looking for Thomas's death but didn't couldn't find it. I wasn't sure were he died.
As for him being Hilda's dad. I found a comment in my notes to suggest that she wasn't their child but I didn't give a reason for thinking that. so perhaps she's not there's.
That is Elsie's death. They had another child called Beatrice Mary Gray b 1894 Gainsborough and she was the other child they lost.
Its a shame that Burton upon stather baptism records are not available on line and neither are Hulls so I can't check them.
Thank you for all your help
Jane
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Catherine
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29 Mar 2015 14:47 |
Same tree has the following for Hilda:-
Birth: 1907 - Yorkshire, England Marriage: 1929 - Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England Parents: Sarah Ann Stephenson
No father's name given. Maybe her marriage certificate will give her father's name, if known????
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Jane
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29 Mar 2015 14:48 |
Catherine Thank you for that info I will make a note of it and add it to the list of certs I need to get.
Argyllgran, Gritty and Yvonne thank you for your help. I will add the information to my notes. I am begging to get a better picture of his life now and maybe I can include him in my 52 week challenge soon..
all the best
Jane
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29 Mar 2015 14:55 |
Is there any chance someone could find a baptism record for Sarah Ann Stephenson b1868 Meaux, Yorkshire. Her parents were George and Hannah Stephenson.
Her birth was registered in goole.
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Jane
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Catherine
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29 Mar 2015 15:02 |
Name: Beatrice Mary Gray Gender: Female Birth Date: 7 Mar 1894 Baptism Date: 21 Apr 1894 Baptism Place: Holy Trinity, Gainsborough, Lincoln, England Father: Thomas Gray Mother: Sarah Ann FHL Film Number: 1450408 Reference ID: item 2 p 248
Both this one and baptism for Elsie were found on line (ancestry).
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Catherine
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29 Mar 2015 15:04 |
Name: Mabel Gray Gender: Female Birth Date: 17 Aug 1895 Baptism Date: 28 Sep 1895 Baptism Place: Holy Trinity, Gainsborough, Lincoln, England Father: Thomas Gray Mother: Sarah Ann FHL Film Number: 1450408 Reference ID: item 2 p 279
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Jane
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29 Mar 2015 15:08 |
That death in Howden is looking good as the age would be right.
Jane
thanks Catherine for those baptisms. Unfortunately I am not on Ancetry.
All the best
jane
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Catherine
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29 Mar 2015 15:18 |
Can't see a baptism yet but this looks to be Sarah in 1871:-
Name: Sarah A Stephenson Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Female Age: 2 Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birthplace: Meaux, Yorkshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Beverley Sub-District: Leven Parish: Meaux County: Yorkshire (West Riding) Household Role Gender Age Birthplace George Stephenson Self M 30 Skirlaugh, Yorkshire Hannah Stephenson Wife F 25 Wawne, Yorkshire Robert Stephenson Son M 4 Wawne, Yorkshire Sarah A Stephenson Daughter F 2 Meaux, Yorkshire Fanny Stephenson Daughter F 0 Meaux, Yorkshire
.....as reg.dist. is Beverley then I would think this would be her birth:-
Name: Sarah Ann Stephenson Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year: 1868 Registration District: Beverley County: Yorkshire Event Place: Beverley, Yorkshire, England Volume: 9D Page: 11 Line Number: 286
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Jane
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29 Mar 2015 15:20 |
Thank you Catherine. Yes that looks like her family.
All the best Jane
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Catherine
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29 Mar 2015 15:49 |
.............and 1881
Name: Sarah A Stephenson Age (Original): 12 Gender: Female Birth Year: 1869 Birthplace: Meaux, Yorkshire, England Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Marital Status: Single Occupation: Scholar Address: Beverley Road Event Place: Routh, Yorkshire (East Riding), England Record Type: Household Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 4745 / 32 Page Number: 2 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace George Stephenson Head M 40 Riston, Yorkshire, England Sarah A Stephenson Daughter F 12 Meaux, Yorkshire, England Fanny Stephenson Daughter F 10 Meaux, Yorkshire, England William F Stephenson Son M 9 Meaux, Yorkshire, England GS Film number: 1342146
.....................and in case it's of interest this looks to be her brother William in 1911:-
Name: William Fewson Stephenson Age in 1911: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Meaux, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: North Bierley County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street address: 4 New Street Bierley Lane Bradford Marital Status: Married Occupation: Farm Labourer Registration district: North Bierley Registration District Number: 497 Sub-registration district: North Bierley ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Piece: 26601 Household Members: Name Age William Fewson Stephenson 39 Harriet Ann Stephenson 36 George Robert Stephenson 13 Harold Stephenson 9 Hannah Elizabeth Stephenson 6 Elizah Stephenson 5 William Fewson Stephenson 3 Ethel Stephenson 2
.............with middle name Fewson, so wondering if this was Hannah's (mother) maiden name???
............and also in 1901:-
Name: William F Stephenson Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Harriett A Stephenson Birth Place: Meant Blverley, Yorkshire, England (original shows Meaux) Civil Parish: North Bierley Ecclesiastical parish: Bierley St John County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: North Bierley Sub-registration district: North Bierley ED, institution, or vessel: 01 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4175 Folio: 9 Page Number: 10 Household schedule number: 61 Household Members: Name Age William F Stephenson 29 Harriett A Stephenson 25 George R Stephenson 3
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Catherine
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29 Mar 2015 16:01 |
No, I would suggest that this is a good possibility for parents marriage:-
Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%) Cooling Hannah Beverley 9d 249 STEVENSON George Beverley 9d 249
.........................and this would then be Hannah in 1861:-
Name: Hannah Cooling Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: 1846 Relation: Servant (Employee) Where born: Wawne, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Wawne County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Domestic Servant Registration district: Beverley Sub-registration district: Leven ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 10 Piece: 3573 Folio: 50 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Richard Calvert 80 Ann Calvert 78 John Spicer 16 Hannah Cooling 15 John Jackson 25 Robert Spicer 17 Henry Wray 25 Joseph Holt 54
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Jane
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29 Mar 2015 16:16 |
Thanks Catherine,
for all your help. I will add it all to my notes for safe keeping,
I must stop now and start getting tea ready.
all the best. Jane
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