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Sarah ann Gray and Thomas Gray look up please

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Jane

Jane Report 29 Mar 2015 12:16

Please can some see if they can find this family on the 1911 census. There may be a child called Hilda Gray with them. Can you tell me if she is their child and where she was born.

1901 census

1901 England Census
about Thomas Gray
Name: Thomas Gray
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Burton Stather, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members:
Name Age
Elsie M Gray 3
Mable Gray 5
Sarah Ann Gray 33
Thomas Gray 35

Thank you for helping me

Jane

Gritty

Gritty Report 29 Mar 2015 12:20

1911:

Sarah Ann Gray Head Widow Female 42 1869 Meaux Yorks Washerwoman
Mabel Gray Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Gainbrough Lincs -
Thomas Stephenson Gray Son - Male 10 1901 Hull Yorks School
Hilda Gray Daughter - Female 4 1907 Hull Yorks -
John Woollas Boarder Single Male 43 1868 Springthorp Yorks Dock Labourer

ddress 4 Alexandra Terrace Woodhouse St Hull
Parish Sculcoates
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (East Riding)
Country England
Registration district Sculcoates
Registration district number 521
Subdistrict Drypool
Subdistrict number 6
Enumeration district 15
Piece number 28672
Schedule number 162
Census reference RG14PN28672 RD521 SD6 ED15 SN162

It's crossed out, but says married 19 years 5 children, 3 living

Jane

Jane Report 29 Mar 2015 12:25

Thank you Gritty

That is a great help.

Jane

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Mar 2015 13:51

???

Births Jun 1907 (>99%)

GRAY Hilda May Sculcoates 9d 213

malyon

malyon Report 29 Mar 2015 14:02

this looks like thomas gray's death

Thomas Gray
England and Wales, Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: Thomas Gray
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1901
Registration District: Howden
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Howden, Yorkshire, England
Age (available after 1866): 35
Birth Year (Estimated): 1866
Volume: 9D
Page: 61
Line Number: 276

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Mar 2015 14:05

These are the only deaths I can see for a Thomas Gray in the East Riding of Yorkshire, 1901-11, to fit with his age at 1901 census.

But neither of these can have been Hilda's father.

Deaths Jun 1901 (>99%)
Gray Thomas 35 Howden 9d 61

Deaths Dec 1904 (>99%)
Gray Thomas Martin S 38 Selby 9c 526

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Mar 2015 14:09

Death of Elsie???

Deaths Sep 1904 (>99%)
GRAY Elsie Mary 7 Sculcoates 9d 143

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Mar 2015 14:40

Death for Elsie would seem to be the correct one as this is her baptism:-

Name: Elsie Mary Gray
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 1897
Baptism Place: Burton On Stather, Lincoln, England
Father: Thomas Gray
Mother: Sarah Ann
FHL Film Number: 1542184
Reference ID: - 2:2T4L729

................which shows her middle name is Mary.

A tree on ancestry gives her date of death as 1904. It also gives this for Thomas:-

Birth: 1866 - Lincolnshire
Death: 24 June 1901 (24 Jun 1901) - Goole, Yorkshire, England
Spouse: Sarah Ann Stephenson

..........as it gives the exact date I would think that they have the certificate but it is a private tree so can't view.

Jane

Jane Report 29 Mar 2015 14:43

Thank you all very much for all your help.

I've been looking for Thomas's death but didn't couldn't find it. I wasn't sure were he died.

As for him being Hilda's dad. I found a comment in my notes to suggest that she wasn't their child but I didn't give a reason for thinking that. so perhaps she's not there's.

That is Elsie's death. They had another child called Beatrice Mary Gray b 1894 Gainsborough and she was the other child they lost.

Its a shame that Burton upon stather baptism records are not available on line and neither are Hulls so I can't check them.

Thank you for all your help

Jane

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Mar 2015 14:47

Same tree has the following for Hilda:-

Birth: 1907 - Yorkshire, England
Marriage: 1929 - Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England
Parents: Sarah Ann Stephenson

No father's name given. Maybe her marriage certificate will give her father's name, if known????

Jane

Jane Report 29 Mar 2015 14:48

Catherine Thank you for that info I will make a note of it and add it to the list of certs I need to get.

Argyllgran, Gritty and Yvonne thank you for your help. I will add the information to my notes.
I am begging to get a better picture of his life now and maybe I can include him in my 52 week challenge soon..

all the best

Jane

Jane

Jane Report 29 Mar 2015 14:55

Is there any chance someone could find a baptism record for Sarah Ann Stephenson b1868 Meaux, Yorkshire. Her parents were George and Hannah Stephenson.

Her birth was registered in goole.

Thanks

Jane

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Mar 2015 15:02

Name: Beatrice Mary Gray
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 7 Mar 1894
Baptism Date: 21 Apr 1894
Baptism Place: Holy Trinity, Gainsborough, Lincoln, England
Father: Thomas Gray
Mother: Sarah Ann
FHL Film Number: 1450408
Reference ID: item 2 p 248

Both this one and baptism for Elsie were found on line (ancestry).

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Mar 2015 15:04

Name: Mabel Gray
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1895
Baptism Date: 28 Sep 1895
Baptism Place: Holy Trinity, Gainsborough, Lincoln, England
Father: Thomas Gray
Mother: Sarah Ann
FHL Film Number: 1450408
Reference ID: item 2 p 279

Jane

Jane Report 29 Mar 2015 15:08

That death in Howden is looking good as the age would be right.

Jane

thanks Catherine for those baptisms. Unfortunately I am not on Ancetry.

All the best

jane

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Mar 2015 15:18

Can't see a baptism yet but this looks to be Sarah in 1871:-

Name: Sarah A Stephenson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 2
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Meaux, Yorkshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Beverley
Sub-District: Leven
Parish: Meaux
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
George Stephenson Self M 30 Skirlaugh, Yorkshire
Hannah Stephenson Wife F 25 Wawne, Yorkshire
Robert Stephenson Son M 4 Wawne, Yorkshire
Sarah A Stephenson Daughter F 2 Meaux, Yorkshire
Fanny Stephenson Daughter F 0 Meaux, Yorkshire


.....as reg.dist. is Beverley then I would think this would be her birth:-

Name: Sarah Ann Stephenson
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1868
Registration District: Beverley
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Volume: 9D
Page: 11
Line Number: 286

Jane

Jane Report 29 Mar 2015 15:20

Thank you Catherine. Yes that looks like her family.

All the best
Jane

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Mar 2015 15:49

.............and 1881

Name: Sarah A Stephenson
Age (Original): 12
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1869
Birthplace: Meaux, Yorkshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Scholar
Address: Beverley Road
Event Place: Routh, Yorkshire (East Riding), England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4745 / 32
Page Number: 2
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
George Stephenson Head M 40 Riston, Yorkshire, England
Sarah A Stephenson Daughter F 12 Meaux, Yorkshire, England
Fanny Stephenson Daughter F 10 Meaux, Yorkshire, England
William F Stephenson Son M 9 Meaux, Yorkshire, England
GS Film number: 1342146

.....................and in case it's of interest this looks to be her brother William in 1911:-

Name: William Fewson Stephenson
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Meaux, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: North Bierley
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 4 New Street Bierley Lane Bradford
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration district: North Bierley
Registration District Number: 497
Sub-registration district: North Bierley
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 26601
Household Members:
Name Age
William Fewson Stephenson 39
Harriet Ann Stephenson 36
George Robert Stephenson 13
Harold Stephenson 9
Hannah Elizabeth Stephenson 6
Elizah Stephenson 5
William Fewson Stephenson 3
Ethel Stephenson 2

.............with middle name Fewson, so wondering if this was Hannah's (mother) maiden name???

............and also in 1901:-

Name: William F Stephenson
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Harriett A Stephenson
Birth Place: Meant Blverley, Yorkshire, England (original shows Meaux)
Civil Parish: North Bierley
Ecclesiastical parish: Bierley St John
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: North Bierley
Sub-registration district: North Bierley
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4175
Folio: 9
Page Number: 10
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members:
Name Age
William F Stephenson 29
Harriett A Stephenson 25
George R Stephenson 3

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Mar 2015 16:01

No, I would suggest that this is a good possibility for parents marriage:-

Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
Cooling Hannah Beverley 9d 249
STEVENSON George Beverley 9d 249

.........................and this would then be Hannah in 1861:-

Name: Hannah Cooling
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: 1846
Relation: Servant (Employee)
Where born: Wawne, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wawne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Domestic Servant
Registration district: Beverley
Sub-registration district: Leven
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 3573
Folio: 50
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Calvert 80
Ann Calvert 78
John Spicer 16
Hannah Cooling 15
John Jackson 25
Robert Spicer 17
Henry Wray 25
Joseph Holt 54

Jane

Jane Report 29 Mar 2015 16:16

Thanks Catherine,

for all your help. I will add it all to my notes for safe keeping,

I must stop now and start getting tea ready.

all the best.
Jane