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THIS matches the 1841 posted by rootgather for occupation, which is hardly likely to change

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Boyndie Street, Banff, Burgh of Banff, Banffshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Peter Coutts - Widower Male 44 1817 Tailor (Empg 8 Men & 3 Boys Fyvie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
John Coutts - - Male 7 1854 Scholar Banff, Banffshire, Scotland Transcription
Susan McHattie - Widow Female 83 1778 - - Transcription
Ann McHattie - Unmarried Female 40 1821 House Keeper Banff, Banffshire, Scotland Transcription

NO children.....

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
43, Boyndie Street, Banff, Banffshire, Scotland


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Peter Coutts Head Widower Male 35 1816 Merchant Tailor Employing 7 Men Tyrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Alexander Reid Brother-In-Law Married Male 40 1811 Shoemaker Journeyman Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Helen Reid - Married Female 42 1809 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
William Reid - - Male 12 1839 Scholar Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Peter Coutts Reid - - Male 2 1849 - Banff, Banffshire, Scotland Transcription
Helen Bruce - Widow Female 78 1773 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Name: Alexander Reid
Spouse's Name: Helen Bruce
Event Date: 18 Jul 1834
Event Place: Saint Nicholas,Aberdeen,Aberdeen,Scotland

Looking good Jacqueline.

:-) :-)

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Duff House, Banff, Banffshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
John McHattie Male 70 1771 Banffshire, Scotland Transcription
Susan McHattie Female 55 1786 England Transcription
Susan McHattie Female 25 1816 England Transcription
Ann McHattie Female 20 1821 Banffshire, Scotland Transcription
Agnes Garland Female 15 1826 Banffshire, Scotland Transcription
John Sivewright Male 15 1826 Banffshire, Scotland Transcription
James Anderson Male 15 1826 Banffshire, Scotland Transcription
George Adam Male 15 1826 Banffshire, Scotland

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Old Market Place, 18, Banff, Banffshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Susan McHattie Head Widow Female 70 1781 Millener England Transcription
Susan McHattie Daughter Unmarried Female 35 1816 Millener Reading, Perthshire, Scotland Transcription
Ann McHattie Daughter Unmarried Female 30 1821 Millener Banff, Banffshire, Scotland Transcription
Murray McHattie Grand Child - Female 12 1839 Scholar Banff, Banffshire, Scotland

Reading is, of course, in BERKSHIRE

1841

Hellen Bruce
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1772
Gender: Female
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Banff
County: Banffshire
Address: Carmetite Street
Occupation: F S
Parish Number: 147
Household Members:
Name Age
George Dawson 65
Hellen Bruce 69
Margt Bruce 20

It doesn't look like any of the Bruce children were christened.
If you look on Scotlandspeople for the death of Helen Reid maiden surname Bruce it may give you the names of her parents.

Can you tell us please how you got back to Peter Coutts?

I think there is a Redding near Falkirk, Stirlingshire.

Thanks to all who have searched for me. Can honestly say I am even more
confused but shall carefully go through all the information supplied and see if I can
sort out. There are a number of Peters and Johns in the Coutts line and now seems
there are a number of females with the name Jane Bruce.

I really do appreciate all that has been found and posted for me. My mil was a
Coutts and hopefully will one day sort out this line.

Lynz

You are quite correct Jacqueline, it is Reading, Berks.

I thought this was beginning to sound familiar!

From one of Lyndsey's previous threads

I have Peter Coutts b 2 Aug 1816 - his parents John Coutts, Surgeon, Strichen, and Margaret Smith, an unmarried woman. Trying to discover
more about John Coutts - dob, whether he married and to whom, and when he died. Had hoped to find record of Surgeons - presume he qualified in
Scotland.
Peter married Jane Bruce b 12 July 1819 in Banff and seek dod for Jane.
Peter married Susan Mchattie b abt 1816 in Berkshire, Eng and seek dod for
Susan.
Peter died in 1876 and was predeceased by both Jane and Susan.



Jacqueline, can you post links to the previous threads. I'm on an iPad just now and don't know how to copy the links. Thank you :-)

P.S. I used the McHattie surname for the search.

Lyndsey, Coutts is a very common surname in the Banff / Aberdeenshire area.

It didn't look like Jane Bruce was the mother of your John.

John Coutts
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 8 Jun 1853
Baptism Date: 10 Jul 1853
Baptism Place: Banff,Banff,Scotland
Father: Peter Coutts
Mother: Susan Machattie
FHL Film Number: 990818
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Peter's father?

1841

Piece: SCT1841/196 Place: Fraserburgh -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Fraserburgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 2 Page: 13
Address: Back Street

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
COUTTS John M 46 Surgeon Aberdeenshire
COUTTS Barbra F 35 Aberdeenshire
COUTTS George M 8 Aberdeenshire
COUTTS Alexander M 5 Aberdeenshire
COUTTS Mary F 3 Aberdeenshire
COUTTS Robert M 1 Aberdeenshire
COCK Charles M 11 Outside Census County (1841)
COCK Elisa F 8 Outside Census County (1841)
GRIM Alexander M 23 Surgeon Aberdeenshire
RANKIN Elenora F 35 Female Servant Aberdeenshire
BROWN Elisabeth F 23 Female Servant Aberdeenshire
MACINTOSH Ann F 22 Female Servant Aberdeenshire
BURNETT Alexander M 70 Male Servant

George Watson Coutts
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 6 Jun 1833
Baptism Place: Fraserburgh,Aberdeen,Scotland
Father: John Coutts
Mother: Barbara Cock
FHL Film Number: 993185

Barbara Cock
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 1 Nov 1825
Marriage Place: Rathen,Aberdeen,Scotland
Spouse: John Coutts
FHL Film Number: 993357

Lyndsay

How does the line go back from your mother-in-law?

It is vital that you work backwards and check every step carefully.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1249938

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1251659

It is irritating - to say the least - to look at the old threads and find out that the info we've looked for today was already known to you, Lyndsay.

That fact makes it all the more surprising that you said that the incorrect 1861 census was your family, when you must have known that it wasn't

Thank you for the links Jacqueline.

Lyndsey, as the direct line seems to be from John, child of Peter and Susan, I would have thought that an approximate year of death would be sufficient for Peter's first wife as there appears to be no issue from that marriage. If you wish to narrow the timescale for her death, then your only hope is to find a burial record for her.

You say there seems to be a number of females with the name Jane Bruce . The only Jane Bruce that I can see is the first wife of Peter who doesn't have an obvious blood relationship to John Coutts born 1853.

Rootgatherer

Dont know if ipad is the same as tablet but to copy and paste links tap quickly a couple of times on the url ....it goes blue and you get the option to copy top right of screen
Then press down where you want to post it and the word paste comes up