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Sorry for disturbing everyone but this man has driven me insane by appearing aged 45 in the 1871 census and not apparently existing before that date. He is my great great grandfather and here is all the information I have.
He was a miller and grocer who lived at Lower Roughwood Mill in Hassall (near Alsager) in Cheshire. He was married to Eliza who was also born in 1826 but in Betchton. She was a dressmaker (I've seen photos of her daughter in some amazing frocks she created) but stopped in later years. They had four children. The oldest Levi Stonier b 1849, was a journeyman miller but he died in 1897. Then there was Emma born 1851, who worked in her father's grocer's shop, was my Great Grandma and married John Gorst. Then young Thomas Stonier born 1854, who also married a Gorst and finally Alfred Stonier born 1860. I have hunted round Odd Rode and Hassall for any clues but I just can't find anything about Thomas. I know the millers at Odd rode were called Stonier and he was a miller but still no link can I find. Please help me. I'm usually quite good at my family tree stuff but this is annoying. .

presumably that's 1826 :-)

Name: Thomas Stonier
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 45
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: Odd Rode, Cheshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Congleton
Sub-District: Sandbach
Parish: Hassall
County: Cheshire

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Thomas Stonier Self M 45 Odd Rode, Cheshire
Elisa Stonier Wife F 45 Betchton, Cheshire
Levi Stonier Son M 22 Hassall, Cheshire
Emma Stomer Daughter F 20 Betehton, Cheshire
Thomas Stomer Son M 17 Betehton, Cheshire
Alfred Stomer Son M 11 Betehton, Cheshire

Name: Thomas Stonier
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 03 Jul 1853
Event Place: Great Budworth, Wesleyan Methodist Church, Barnton, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Thomas Stonier
Mother's Name: Eliza Stonier
Page: 17

GS Film number: 2299417 , Digital Folder Number: 004020668 , Image Number: 00597

Thomas Stonier
Head

England and Wales Census, 1901


birth:

1854

Betchton, Cheshire


residence:

31 March 1901

Wheelock, Cheshire, England

Name: Thomas Stonier
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 07 Dec 1892
Event Place: Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Mary Gorst
Spouse's Marital Status: Single

GS Film number: 1885412 , Digital Folder Number: 4018551 , Image Number: 172

Thomas Stonier
England and Wales, Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: Thomas Stonier
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1897
Registration District: Congleton
County: Cheshire
Event Place: Congleton, Cheshire, England
Age (available after 1866): 71
Birth Year (Estimated): 1826
Volume: 8A
Page: 215
Line Number: 306

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Name: Levi Stonier
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1873
Registration District: Congleton
County: Cheshire
Event Place: Congleton, Cheshire, England
Age (available after 1866): 24
Birth Year (Estimated): 1849
Volume: 8A
Page: 199
Line Number: 311

Surname interests for Odd Rode - Virgin Media – Cable ...


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Surname interests for Odd Rode ... This PACE family of early/mid 1800s was connected to local surnames of ... STONIER: THURLWOOD: 1800-1875:

What was Eliza's maiden name?

Anything on google search?, places, names etc.

What are you trying to find?...

Chris :)


http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

(if any help with anything, above useful link brings below)


Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1848

STANYER Thomas HICKSON Eliza Sandbach, St Mary Cheshire East 1080/1/323


Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1846 to 1850

STONIER Levi Sandbach Cheshire East SA/6/50


Marriages Jun 1848 (>99%)
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HICKSON Eliza Congleton 19 106
Stanyer Thomas Congleton 19 106

Library Catalogue - The Contents of the Stonehewer to ...


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Library Catalogue. The contents of the ... Stonier, James: MDX: early 1800's: 8: Family Tree: 021/P/MacR 138: Stanier, George: ... Cheshire Vol 2 Family Histories ...

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Roughwood Bank, Betchton, Congleton, Cheshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Stomey Head Married Male 35 1826 Miller Cheshire, England Transcription
Eliza Stomey Wife Married Female 33 1828 - Cheshire, England Transcription
Levi Stomey Son - Male 12 1849 Scholar Cheshire, England Transcription
Emma Stomey Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Cheshire, England Transcription
Thomas Stomey Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Cheshire, England Transcription
Alford Stomey Son - Male 1 1860 - Cheshire, England

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Roughwood, Betchton, Congleton, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Stanger Head Married Male 25 1826 Miller Journeyman Cheshire, England Transcription
Eliza Stanger Wife Married Female 25 1826 Dressmaker Cheshire, England Transcription
Leah Stanger Son - Male 2 1849 - Cheshire, England Transcription
Emma Stanger Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Cheshire, England

Last name: Stonier


This interesting surname is a variant of Stanier, which is of Anglo-Saxon origin, and is occupational for a stonecutter, one who cut and dressed stone. The name is derived from the Middle English (1200 -1500) 'stanyer', from the Old English pre 7th Century 'stan', stone, and a reduced form of 'hewer', an agent derivative of 'hew(en)', to cut, chop, from the Old English 'heawan', assimilated to the agent suffix -(i)er. The name development since 1279 (see below) includes the following: Richard Stener (1379, Yorkshire), John Stonehewer (1605, Cheshire) and Nathaniell Stanyar (1689, Cheshire). The surname was more commonly known as Stonhewer in the mid to late 16th Century; the modern surname can be found as Stanier, Stanyer, Stonier and Stonhewer, and is found mainly in Staffordshire. Among the sample recordings in Staffordshire are the marriage of George Stonier and Ellen Wall on January 27th 1679 at Dilhorne, and the christening of Francis, son of Thomas and Anne Stonier, on September 10th 1737 at Wolstanton. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Thomas Stonhewar, which was dated 1279, The Hundred Rolls of Oxfordshire, during the reign of King Edward 1, The Hammer of the Scots', 1272 - 1307. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

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Marriages Jun 1848 (>99%)

BAILEY Henry Congleton 19 106 Scan available - click to view
BAILEY Mary Congleton 19 106 Scan available - click to view
BICKERTON Sarah Congleton 19 106 Scan available - click to view
FOXLEY Mary Congleton 19 106 Scan available - click to view
Gibson William Congleton 19 106 Scan available - click to view
HICKSON Eliza Congleton 19 106 Scan available - click to view
Smallwood Samuel Congleton 19 106 Scan available - click to view
Stanyer Thomas Congleton 19

Cheshire Census Records - 1851 - Census Archives: UK ...


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Cheshire Parish & Probate Records. Cheshire, ... from the 1500s to the 1800s. ... Odd Rode ; Offerton ; Old Withington ;

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Holbrooks Mill, Sandbach, Congleton, Cheshire, England


First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Joseph Stanyer Male 35 1806 - Transcription
Mary Stanyer Female 30 1811 Cheshire, England Transcription
Thomas Stanyer Male 15 1826 Cheshire, England Transcription
Joseph Stanyer Male 10 1831 Cheshire, England Transcription
Henry Stanyer Male 9 1832 Cheshire, England Transcription
James Stanyer Male 3 1838 Cheshire, England Transcription
Eliza Stanyer Female 13 1828 Cheshire, England Transcription
Ann Stanyer Female 12 1829 Cheshire, England Transcription
Maria Stanyer Female 7 1834 Cheshire, England Transcription
Mary Stanyer Female 5 1836 Cheshire, England Transcription
Hannah Stanyer Female 20 1821 Cheshire, England Transcription
Sarah Fox Female 15 1826 Cheshire, England Transcription

Do you need anything other than the 3 censuses and the marriage?

What kind and helpful people you all are. Thank you so much.
Thanks AnnCardiff, you have verified information for me and provided some extra places to look. I can't find a link with Stonehewers but it makes sense.
Thanks Yvonne, that gives me much more precise information.
Sorry, Jacqueline, I don't know Eliza's maiden name. Until about ten minutes ago this family appeared in 1871 completely ready made but thank you so much for finding them in 1861. That's a big leap forward and shows that spelling in the census could be dodgy!
Thanks so much everyone.