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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 21 Apr 2015 23:54

One of the witnesses on the codicil to Harriet Atkinson's will, was one Juliet Susannah Atkinson.

I think she was the wife/widow of Thomas & Harriet's son Septimus Edward Atkinson.

Looks like they married in India:

First name(s) Septimus Edward
Last name Atkin
Marriage year 1828
Marriage date 27 Dec 1828
Spouse's first name Juliet Susannah
Spouse's last name Walters
Place -
Presidency Bengal
Groom's age 21
Bride's age 23
Groom's father's first name -
Groom's father's last name -
Bride's father's first name -
Bride's father's last name -
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Archive reference N-1-21
Folio number 177
Entry number -
Record set British India Office marriages

On the image of the marrige register, the name Septimus Edward Atkin fills one line, and 'son' is on the next line, Calcutta, gentleman. Juliet is also of Calcutta, a spinster.

They lost at least one child there:

Name: Harriett Julia Atkinson<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 15 Feb 1830
Burial Place: Calcutta, Bengal, India
Age: 0
Birth Date: 1830
Occupation: Infant
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Septimus Edward Atkinson<<<<<<<
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B39594-9 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number:

The image says she died aged 2month, and her father Septimus was a Volunteer H. C.Marine.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 22 Apr 2015 00:30

I suspect this is Juliet in census 1841, with possibly some of her Walters siblings/kin:

No sign of any surviving Atkinson children from her marriage:

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

High Street, Crediton, Devon, England

Samuel Backwell Male 40 1801 Devon, England
Anne Backwell Female 35 1806 Devon, England
Ellen Backwell Female 14 1827 Devon, England
Jane Lake Female 18 1823 Devon, England
Richard Whidborne Male 61 1780 Devon, England
Jane Whidborne Female 60 1781 Devon, England
Jane Yarde Female 35 1806 Devon, England
Jane Yarde Female 7 1834 Devon, England
Fanny Badcock Female 50 1791 Devon, England
George Walters Male 31 1810 -
Susannah Walters Female 21 1820 -
Juliet Atkinson Female 35 1806<<<<<
Emily Walters Female 23 1818

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 22 Apr 2015 01:54

????

This is EXTREMELY speculative based on Harriet Jones marrying in Barking, and being born c1772 if her age at death was correct.

Walthamstow and Barking are fairly close.

Name: Harriott Jones
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 17 Mar 1772
Christening Place: St. Marys, Walthamstow, Essex, England
Father's Name: James Jones
Mother's Name: Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C16396-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1564135 , Reference ID: item 5 ,

We know Harriet had a sister named Ann, who had a James Jones as a witness at her marriage in 1799. However Ann was of the parish of Chislehurst at the time:

Name: Ann Jones
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 23 Jul 1767
Christening Place: St. Marys, Walthamstow, Essex, England
Father's Name: James Jones
Mother's Name: Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C16396-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1564135 , Reference ID: item 4

Other births:

Name: Matilda Jones
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 11 Mar 1775
Event Place: Barking, Essex, England
Gender: Female
Father's Name: James Jones
Mother's Name: Ann
GS Film Number: 1471843 , Digital Folder Number: 004047856 , Image Number: 00300

Name: Henry Salkeld Jones
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 01 Jul 1773
Event Place: Barking, Essex, England
Gender: Male
Father's Name: James Jones
Mother's Name: Ann
GS Film Number: 1471843 , Digital Folder Number: 004047856 , Image Number: 00296


Name: Sarah Jones
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 09 Feb 1769
Christening Place: St. Marys, Walthamstow, Essex, England
Father's Name: James Jones
Mother's Name: Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C16396-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1564135 , Reference ID: item 5

It looks like the baptisms start out at Walthamstow, then move to Barking if looked at chronologically.

BUT, Jones is so common a name, and, as Jacqueline said earlier, Essex is not the easiest county to work with where records are concerned, so this might be a complete red herring, and I can't see a way at the moment to substantiate it.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 22 Apr 2015 06:42

(saw below)

Death Announcements 1832-1844

Surname Atkinson
First names Septimus Edward
Unit Bengal Marines
Death date 27 May 1833
Place of death East Indies
Detail Septimus Edward Atkinson, Bengal Marines, youngest son of late Thomas Atkinson, esq.

http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/

(above also on google search)


Name: Septimus Edward ATKINSON
Marriage
Start date: 27 Dec
Start year: 1828
Location: Calcutta Cath.
Spouse: Juliet Susannah WALTERS
Status: 21. Gent.
Transcribed by: British Library
India Office Records Reference: N/1/21 f.177
Presidency: Bengal

http://indiafamily.bl.uk/ui/Advancediscovery.aspx

Chris :)

http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/EssexAncestors.aspx

(above for Essex Parishes, subscription needed)

Jane

Jane Report 22 Apr 2015 08:52

Oh WOW
Thank you everyone
So much information to read through - I am feeling very overwhelmed

Maddie - I'd seen the ancestry tree, but as it has quite a few proven errors on a couple of generations I can't trust any of it, but thanks.

Safe, Jacqueline, Kucinta and Chris Ho - thank you so much, it will probably take me a week to read through it all

Have a great week everyone <3

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 22 Apr 2015 15:32

HI,

Will send copy of the will of James Atkinson merchant, to you at the email address you gave me to send Harriet's will.

Harriet did mention James' will at the beginning of hers.

James is a merchant, mentions sons James, Stephen and THOMAS, and leaves various bequests to "Harriet the wife of my son Thomas". Quite a long will, and the writing is very closely written, so hope you have plenty of spare time!

Name: James Atkinson Esquire
Probate Date: 23 Aug 1809
Residence: London

EDIT: Burial record for James:

Name: James Atkinson
Burial Date: 14 Apr 1809
Parish: St Sepulchre, Holborn
County: London
Borough: City of London
Record Type: Burial
Register Type: Parish Register

Looks like he was buried in the 'Great Vault', and his address was given as Bedford Row. Aged 80 years, so gives you some idea of birthdate.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 22 Apr 2015 16:54

Found this transcription for the will of Stephen Atkinson (brother to Thomas Atkinson, uncle to James Atkinson c1800)

I believe the '1918' is a mistranscription and should be 1818. In harriet's will Stephen is mentioned as formerly of Scriven with Tentergate Knaresbrough:

http://www.harrogatepeopleandplaces.info/wills/aa/052.htm


Stephen Atkinson - 11th October 1918 - AA052

Scriven with Tentergate, but now of Colney Hatch, Middlesex, Esquire

To my niece Ann Atkinson, daughter of my brother James Atkinson, £1,000.

To John Fairbank, son of Francis Fairbank of Knaresborough, Attorney at Law, £500.

To my relation James Hayhurst, son of James Hayhurst, deceased, late of Long Acre, £500.

To James Sermitte, son of my executor Thomas Sermitte, £500.

To my servant Rachel Winter, £500.

To my executor, Thomas Sermitte, of Aldgate, London, and of Colney Hatch, Merchant, £500 Upon Trust to invest in public funds. Any change to be authorised by Harriette Atkinson, wife of Thomas Atkinson the son of my brother James Atkinson. The profit to be disbursed as directed by Harriette.

All my freehold estate in Scriven with Tentergate, Knaresborough, and Youlton, and the residue of my personal estate and effects to Thomas Sermitte.

Witnesses : George Ries Williams, Clerk to Messrs Exley Stoker & Dawson, Furnivals Inn, James Perkins of Colney Hatch

Inrolled 3rd January 1821

Edit: have now found a scan of the will which I will send.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 22 Apr 2015 18:16

Not sure if this is connected to the 'James Hayhurst' mentioned in Stephen's will trancripts above:

Name: James Hayhurst
Spouse: Rebecca Atkinson
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Dec 1785
Parish: Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen, Spitalfields
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

One witness is a Jane Atkinson. James is described as a bachelor of ST Giles in the Fields, Rebecca a spinster otp. Married by licence.

Might be a complete red herring. However 'Long Acre' (mentioned as James' abode in Stephen's will) is an area in Westminster and I found the birth of two daughters, Jane and Jemima, to the couple in the Westminster area..

Name: Jane Hayhurst
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 17 Aug 1787
Christening Place: SAINT CLEMENT DANES,WESTMINSTER,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1787
Father's Name: James Hayhurst
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04160-3 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 574266, 574267 ,

Name: Jemima Hayhurst
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 26 Apr 1789
Christening Place: SAINT CLEMENT DANES,WESTMINSTER,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 13 Apr 1789
Father's Name: James Hayhurst
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04160-3 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 574266, 574267

Howver 'Long Acre' might also be a rural location relating to Stephen's life in Scriven with Tenterhook.

Edit: This James died 1815:

Name: James Hayhurst
Probate Date: 3 Jun 1815
Residence: St Giles in the Fields, Middlesex, England

Will mentions wife Rebecca, but I'm struggling to read it, it does say he has a son named James Hayhurst though, who is probably the recipient of the £500 bequest from Stephen Atkinson.