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Trying to help a friend here.

I know Lorna married in Northam,WA 1941...only one I could find? ,But I do not know who too,Ancestry is not telling me who,until I know that I cannot find any desendents of hers,I have a truck load of family photos and Bibles for this family if only I could find any of them .

Lorna's father was Robert lindley maitland bn 1868 London .
Lorna's Mother was Ira Jenny Muller bn 1869 Germany,died 1956 Kelmscott WA
Lorna's Sister Enid Erika Maitland bn 1905 Perth Western Australia.Died 1977,Kelmscott WA.
Another Sister mavis bn and died 1896

Enid Erika married George N G Armstrong 1932 Canning WA,George died 1979 Armadale WA,I can find no children for that union.

Lorna Married late in life so Am hoping she had some children,to pass this lot onto,wish it was my family ,there is a wealth of Photos to give to someone :-(

Thankyou for any info you can come up with.


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Lorna and her Mother were living together in 1937 River Rd Kelmscott.

Are you sure she married in 1941?
It's too recent for the record to be on line but Trove has an article of 19th June 1942 (the South Western Advertiser):
"Miss Lorna Maitland of Kelmscott and of the Education Department has taken up an appointment at the Burakin State School."

Good pick up Beverley,I did not look on the Trove ,found a bit about the two sisters

travel arrangements while requesting Silver Chain badges ,I did find a lot of travel

things on Ancestry for them but they did get around the world a lot,Egypt Germany

France England Italy Austria

The 1941 Marriage is the only one I could find. :-) :-)

Sue

You could try tracing this name through the ER's


Name:Lorna Maitland

Marriage Place:Western Australia

Registration Place:Northam, Western Australia

Registration Year:1941

Registration Number:29


Name: Stanles Gable (oops missed his surname)

Marriage Place:Western Australia

Registration Place: Northam, Western Australia

Registration Year:1941

Registration Number:29

Thanks Gins that does look good ,I would dearly love to give this family all the photos that have come my way ,I would kill for them if they were my family ...there are heaps all in albums.

I will check Electoral rolls .

Thanks :-D

The 'West Aus State Library' (on-line) has an 'Ask a Librarian' service - they will check electoral rolls past & present. They MAY even check newspaper death notices -if given approx. dates.
Valerie
Albany WAus

cont:

The 'Reverse Marriages' site (ignore its' peculiar name!) shows Lorna Maitland married John R O'Dea 1944 at Northam.

I noticed on another site her birth is shown as 1900 in Northam.

I also noticed on 'National Archives of Aus' a John O'Dea had enlisted -showing next of kin as Lorna. (John's initials vary).

John Richard O'Dea d 19/2/1962 age 64yrs Kelmscott. (can't see Lorna O'Dea)

Valerie

This must be the marriage in 1941


Name:John R O'dea

Marriage Place:Western Australia

Registration Place:Northam, Western Australia

Registration Year:1941

Registration Number:29

Name:Lorna O'Dea <<Teacher

Gender:Female

Electoral Year:1949

Subdistrict:Moore

State:Western Australia

District:Moore

Country:Australia

Living with John Richard




Lorna appears on the ER to the 1980s



Name:John Richard O'dea

Birth Year:abt 1898

Age:64

Death Place:Western Australia

Father's name:John

Mother's name:Eliza

Registration Year:1962

Registration Place:Canning, Western Australia

Registration Number:16

There are 10 O'dea's listed in WA telephone directory. There may/may not be a connection. Worth a letter to each or even a phone call.

Photos are so precious as they are irreplaceable - once lost, they are lost forever along with them history or family desperately being traced in future years.

We have all found this out.

Good luck,
Sappho

The (WA) Library could check John Richard O'Dea's newspaper death notice/s (from given date) 19/2/1962 -for family names. (They can check on Lorna too).

Valerie
(Albany -400kms from Perth)

Thankyou everyone ...OZ time had to go to bed.

Valerie I am in Busselton .

I will check all of this info out ,it looks very good and i think that Odea marriage is the one .

I just wish the photos were of my family ,trying hard to hand them to rightful owner.

Thankyou for all your help <3 :-D

http://tinyurl.com/o83gxvs

(Marriage)


http://tinyurl.com/lv4hq38

(Mother Mrs I.G. Maitland)

Chris :)


http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

(using various word combinations, on advanced above, probably more snippets)

Thanks Chris Ho

At least I can see it is the correct Marriage now ,I still cannot find any children for both marriages of Lorna and Enid ,

Enid bn 1905 Perth WA ,died 1977 Armadale WA,.... married
George N G Armstrong 1932 Canning WA,He died 1979 Armadale,WA


Thankyou for your help :-)

Checked a few WA phone no's but no luck so far finding descendants.

Hi Susan

Here is an article about their mother's birthday. No grandchildren mentioned :-(

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article149804608

Ira may have been known as Jenny, as there are letters signed J. Maitland, Kelmscott.

Her death shows parents names:
MAITLAND IRA JENNY
Female [aged] 86
Father: IGNATIUS
Mother: HENRIETTA
District: CANNING
Reg: 59
Year: 1956

Not sure what the Mrs T. G. relates to in the O'Dea marriage notice? Also shows John was known as Jack.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article148632700

Given that Lorna was already 44 when they married it seems unlikely they had any children. Here is John's birth in WA:

ODEA JOHN RICHARD
Father: JOHN
Mother: PRITCHARD ELIZA
District (WA): NEWCASTLE
Reg: 3648
Year: 1897

Eliza O'DEA died in 1957 in York district, aged 84, daughter of Richard & Joanna (reg 27) - buried at Toodyay (where she was born!)
O'DEA , Eliza, b.1872, d.29 July 1957, age 84 years
http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/Toodyay/toodyay.htm

John Richard's siblings were all born in Newcastle except Stan' (Toodyay):
Edward Bertram b. 1898 (reg 4616), 1948 Katanning district aged 50 (reg 64)
Vernon Patrick b. 1900 (reg 5041), d. 1968 Perth aged 68 (reg 4115)
Stanislaus b. 1901 (reg 5344), d. 1970 Northam district aged 68 (reg 7)
Mary b. 1904 (reg 6609)

Jack's eldest brother did have children:

The West Australian, Tuesday 28 September 1948
O'DEA: On September 27, at Piessevlle, Edward Bertram O'Dea, dearly beloved husband of Mary Ellen, and loved father of Verna (Mrs. E. Davey, Busselton), Molly (Mrs. Curley, Wagin), Gwen, Cliff and Roberta; aged 50 years.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article47131685

Edward O'DEA and Mary Ellen CHITTY married in 1929 in Northam district (reg 63). Her maiden name was THOMPSON. They are both buried at Wagin:
O'DEA, Edward Bertram. 27 September 1948. 50 years. Husband of Mary Ellen. Father of Verna, Mollie, Gwen, Cliff and Roberta. Roman Catholic - Lot 156.
O'DEA, Mary Ellen. 30 July 1981. 83 years. Wife of Edward Bertram. Mother of Earl, Cecil, Freda and Clem. Catholic - Lot 155.
http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/Wagin/wg_oscar.htm

Mary Ellen's first husband, Vernon P. CHITTY, whom she married in 1917, died in 1924 in Northam district. The first two children listed in his death notice were actually Edward B's stepdaughters.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article149367554

The West Australian, Saturday 1 October 1938
The engagement has been announced of Verna, eldest daughter of Mrs. E. B. O'Dea, of Konnongorring and the late Mr. V. P. Chitty, of Calingiri, to Edward, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. W. T. Davey, of Konnongorring.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46479714

Chitty Veronica Teresa [b. 1917, d. 1997, buried at Wagin]
Williams
9/1939
Davey Walter Edward [b. 1915, d. 1999, buried with wife]

Chitty Mary B [b. 1919]
Sussex
21/1940
Curley Martin Thomas [b. 1908, d. 1994 aged 85, buried at Wagin Cemetery]

Roberta Joy, the youngest child of Edward Bertram O'DEA, is mentioned here:
http://www.writerspen.com.au/pete/BARRON/i0001394.htm
Roberta married Colin Draper TAYLOR in 1958. It appears they had a son (still living) and an adopted daughter.

The son of Edward Bertram, 'Cliff', is this fellow:
http://www.westannouncements.com.au/obituaries/thewest-au/obituary-preview.aspx?n=clifford-odea&pid=154607244&referrer=3057
Her married in 1955 but not sure if his wife is stil alive.

Daughter 'Gwen' was Gwendolene, married in 1950. See Reverse Marriage link above to find out more.

Hopefully the Taylor link will prove helpful!

WWII enlistment
ARMSTRONG GEORGE NEIL GOW : Service Number - W67672 : Date of birth - 22 Jul 1893 : Place of birth - CANNING MILLS WA : Place of enlistment - ARMADALE WA : Next of Kin - ARMSTRONG ENID

His birth:
ARMSTRONG GEORGE NEIL GOW
Father: GEORGE
Mother: VINCENT LOUISA
District: CANNING MILLS
Reg: 1453
Year: 1893

He had brothers George Clifford 1886-1886 (died aged 8 days) and Hubert Maitland (coincidence!) b. 1889-1956, and a sister Olivia b. 1885-1958 (married HANBURY)

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article23837586
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article37814942
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article26216023
George remarried after Louisa died - his wife's death notice
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article40727412

I know you are not specifically seeking family history but these clues can help find a living relative!!! :-D

P.S. Just an interesting note - George snr b. 1860 was a son of Christopher ARMSTRONG who arrived in WA in 1829 with his father and brothers. His wife Maria/Mary COOPER also arrived in 1829 with her parents. They married in 1848.