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Joseph Lund born 1857 possibly in Durham area

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Brian

Brian Report 18 Jun 2015 17:46

the above named was my great grandfather - he died 1947.
I am trying to locate his antecedents but have drawn a blank. Can anyone help?
BriN Lund

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Jun 2015 18:12

Do you know who he married ?

Is this him ?


Births Dec 1856
Lund Joseph - Auckland 10a 121



1891

Name:
Joseph Lund

Age:34
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1857

Spouse's Name:Mary Ann Lund

Where born:Bishop Auckland, Durham, England

Civil Parish:Knaresborough
Ecclesiastical parish:St John Baptist
Town:Knaresborough
County/Island:Yorkshire

Joseph Lund 34
Mary Ann Lund 34
John Wm Lund 8

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Jun 2015 18:16

Or is this him ?
We need to know what you know.
Which of his children are you related to ???

When you say POSSIBLY born in Durham ... what do you base this on ??


1881

:
Joseph Lund

Age:22
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1859

Relationship to Head:
Head

Spouse:
Annie Lund

Where born:Framwellgate Moor, Durham, England

Civil Parish:Crossgate

County/Island:Durham

Street address: Millburngate

Joseph Lund 22
Annie Lund 19
Sarah Ethel Lund 1

Gee

Gee Report 18 Jun 2015 19:19


Name:Joseph Lund

Probate Date:22 Oct 1947

Death Date:25 Aug 1947

Death Place:Durham, England

Registry:Durham, England


Probate to: James Hesler, trades Union Clerk £1577 7s

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Jun 2015 19:52

Age given as 90

Deaths Sep 1947
Lund Joseph - 90 - Durham C. 1a 228

malyon

malyon Report 18 Jun 2015 20:01


Joseph Lund
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name: Joseph Lund
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 14
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Bishop Auckland, Durham
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Knaresborough
Sub-District: Knaresbrough
Parish: Knaresbrough
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Thomas Lund Self M 40 Knaresborough, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Lund Wife F 35 Knaresborough, Yorkshire
Joseph Lund Son M 14 Bishop Auckland, Durham
Maria Lund Daughter F 7 Leeds, Yorkshire

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 18 Jun 2015 21:59

Who did he marry?

Are you guessing he was born in Co. Durham because he died there?

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 19 Jun 2015 13:02

Welcome to the community boards Brian.



(I'll let Brian know how to find his replies). :-)

Gee

Gee Report 19 Jun 2015 17:58

His fathers probate



Name:Thomas Lund

Probate Date:7 May 1907

Death Date:7 Mar 1907 <<Windsor Lane, Knaresborough

Death Place:Yorkshire, England

Registry:Wakefield

Probate to: Joseph Lund, platelayer & Tom White, waterworks inspector £159 12s 7d

Brian

Brian Report 23 Jun 2015 16:03

Thanks to you all for your replies, especially Cynthia who has tried to help me find my way around this confusing site.
Joseph Lund was a well known Durham City Alderman and was chairman of the bench of magistrates until his death in 1947. He was also chairman of the Poor Law Institute. He married Frances Annie Lax who was borrn in 1862. One of his sons Frederick Albert Lund was my grandfather.
I have not been able to trace the origins of Joseph Lund - there are conflicting notes in census materialas to where he was born i.e. 'Durham' 'Framwellgate Moor' and 'Relly'. The lengthy obituary in the Durham County Advertiser of the day states he was born in Thornley. This one is really a mystery - I cant find any trace of him beyond the info in the census. Any further info would be appreciated.
Best Wishes, Brian Lund

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jun 2015 16:10

Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
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LAX Frances Annie Durham 10a 462
Lund Joseph Durham 10a 462

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jun 2015 16:21

Wife's name is Frances Annie on original. Says married 30 years 10 children born, 6 still living.
All born Crossgate Parish, Durham.

Joseph Lund

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Joseph Lund
Age in 1911: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Durham Crossgate Parish
Civil Parish: Crossgate
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 12 Neville St Durham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Clesburghman
Registration district: Durham
Registration District Number: 551
Sub-registration district: Durham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 29967
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Lund 55
Hanus Annie Lund 49
Cuthluth Curigh Lund 25
Margrath Velade Lund 21
Thomas Walter Lund 19
Clare Mary Lund 14
Norah Elieen Lund 12
Hilder May Lund 9

If your grandfather was Frederick Albert born 1884 or 1906 then someone has made a mistake in calculations. There are 6 living children listed here.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jun 2015 16:36

He is Frederick Albert on original:

Francis Albert Lund

in the 1901 England Census
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Name: Francis Albert Lund
[Frederick Albert Lund]
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Father: Joseph Lund
Mother: Frances Annie Lund
Birth Place: Durham, England
Civil Parish: Crossgate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4679
Folio: 6
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Lund 47
Frances Annie Lund 39
Francis Albert Lund 17
Curtlet Lund 15
Margaret Lund 11
Walter Lund 9
Olive May Lund 4
Nora Lund 2

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jun 2015 16:46

Can't find Joseph before marriage but this seems to be Frances Annie:

Frances A Lax

in the 1871 England Census
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Name: Frances A Lax
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: William Lax
Mother's name: Sarah A Lax
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England
Civil Parish: Crossgate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Durham
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 101b
Piece: 4962
Folio: 75
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lax 37
Sarah A Lax 29
Frances A Lax 9
William J Lax 7
Frederick Lax 2

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Jun 2015 21:59

Buy a copy of his marriage cert.......if he knew his father, the name will be on it. Unless he invented one, of course.

If he was illegitimate, he may well have done so

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Jun 2015 08:33

Welcome to the boards Brian.

The best place to order certificates is online here.......

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

The witness's might be family members which might help with your research.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 09:21

LUND FRANCES A 1861 1946 1946 England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Durham Central, Durham, England

For info ONLY..........

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
South Street, Crossgate, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Lund Head Married Male 38 1853 Checkweighman For Miners Durham, Durham, England Transcription
Francis Annie Lund Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Durham, Durham, England Transcription
Frederick Albert Lund Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Durham, Durham, England Transcription
Cuthbert Curral Lund Son - Male 5 1886 - Durham, Durham, England Transcription
Margaret V Lund Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Durham, Durham, England Transcription

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 09:26

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Millburngate, Crossgate, Durham, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Lund Head Married Male 22 1859 Miner Framwellgate Moor, Durham, England Transcription
Annie Lund Wife Married Female 19 1862 Miners Wife South Street, Durham, England Transcription
Sarah Ethel Lund Daughter Single Female 1 1880 Miners Daughter South Street, Durham, England



Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
LUND Sarah Ethel Durham 10a 376

Deaths Jun 1881 (>99%)
Lund Sarah Ethel 0 Durham 10a 177

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 09:27

He was VERY unsure of his birth year........every census I've seen is different

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 09:32

I think THIS is him

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Framwell Gate, Framwellgate, Durham, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ann Morgan Head Married Female 26 1835 Charwoman Pittington, Durham, England Transcription
George Morgan Lound Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Thornley, Durham, England Transcription
Joseph Lound Son - Male 3 1858 Scholar Castleford, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Euphemia Lound Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Durham, Durham, England Transcription
Hannah Reed Boarder Married Female 23 1838 Cottage Proprietor York, Yorkshire, England Transcription