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Joseph Lund born 1857 possibly in Durham area

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 29 Jun 2015 21:17

Just remember that people seldom knew how their names were written.

The enumerator wrote what he heard

Brian

Brian Report 29 Jun 2015 21:11

once again many thanks to all of you for your help.
I am beginning to think that Jacqueline has hit the nail on the head when she refers to the name 'Lound' - this would explain why i havent been able to trace the 'Lund' tree. I will now have to somemore research in that direction
Continuing thanks for you help.
Brian Lund

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 13:07

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Kelloe Winning New Row, Kelloe, Easington, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Banks Head Married Male 36 1855 Labourer Darlington, Durham, England Transcription
Johanah Banks Wife Married Female 22 1869 - Ludworth, Durham, England Transcription
Ann Banks Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Kelloe, Durham, England Transcription
James Aitkin Lodger Married Male 48 1843 Shoemaker Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Transcription
James Aitkin Lodger - Male 7 1884 - England Transcription
Uscella Aitkin Lodger - Female 4 1887 - - Transcription



Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
AITKEN Ursula Ann Durham 10a 347


Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 10:15

Births Sep 1857 (>99%)
Lund Joseph Morgan Pontefract 9c 80

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 10:04

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Langley Moor, Brandon and Byshottles, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James S Aitkin Head Married Male 36 1845 Boot Maker Scotland Transcription
Uselliaram Aitkin Wife Married Female 22 1859 - Leadgate, Durham, England Transcription
Johannah Aitkin Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Scholar Ludworth, Durham, England Transcription

A different 'wife'........but...............marriage?????????

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 09:55


Births Dec 1868 (>99%)
AITKIN Joanna Sunderland 10a 575

MMN will be on the cert...........as long as she gave accurate info

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 09:45

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Harrison Street Back Street, Stranton, Hartlepool, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James S Aitkin Head - Male 29 1842 - EDINBURGH
Ann Aitkin Wife - Female 36 1835 - Durham, England Transcription
Euphemia Lund Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Durham, England Transcription
Mary Ellen Aitkin Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Durham, England Transcription
Johanna Aitkin Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Durham, England Transcription
Ann M Aitkin Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Durham, England

Can't see the boys at the moment

Nor can I see a marriage for James and Ann - so heaven knows how this will be unravelled

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 09:32

I think THIS is him

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Framwell Gate, Framwellgate, Durham, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ann Morgan Head Married Female 26 1835 Charwoman Pittington, Durham, England Transcription
George Morgan Lound Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Thornley, Durham, England Transcription
Joseph Lound Son - Male 3 1858 Scholar Castleford, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Euphemia Lound Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Durham, Durham, England Transcription
Hannah Reed Boarder Married Female 23 1838 Cottage Proprietor York, Yorkshire, England Transcription

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 09:27

He was VERY unsure of his birth year........every census I've seen is different

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 09:26

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Millburngate, Crossgate, Durham, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Lund Head Married Male 22 1859 Miner Framwellgate Moor, Durham, England Transcription
Annie Lund Wife Married Female 19 1862 Miners Wife South Street, Durham, England Transcription
Sarah Ethel Lund Daughter Single Female 1 1880 Miners Daughter South Street, Durham, England



Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
LUND Sarah Ethel Durham 10a 376

Deaths Jun 1881 (>99%)
Lund Sarah Ethel 0 Durham 10a 177

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 24 Jun 2015 09:21

LUND FRANCES A 1861 1946 1946 England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Durham Central, Durham, England

For info ONLY..........

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
South Street, Crossgate, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Lund Head Married Male 38 1853 Checkweighman For Miners Durham, Durham, England Transcription
Francis Annie Lund Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Durham, Durham, England Transcription
Frederick Albert Lund Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Durham, Durham, England Transcription
Cuthbert Curral Lund Son - Male 5 1886 - Durham, Durham, England Transcription
Margaret V Lund Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Durham, Durham, England Transcription

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Jun 2015 08:33

Welcome to the boards Brian.

The best place to order certificates is online here.......

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

The witness's might be family members which might help with your research.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Jun 2015 21:59

Buy a copy of his marriage cert.......if he knew his father, the name will be on it. Unless he invented one, of course.

If he was illegitimate, he may well have done so

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jun 2015 16:46

Can't find Joseph before marriage but this seems to be Frances Annie:

Frances A Lax

in the 1871 England Census
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Name: Frances A Lax
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: William Lax
Mother's name: Sarah A Lax
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England
Civil Parish: Crossgate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Durham
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 101b
Piece: 4962
Folio: 75
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lax 37
Sarah A Lax 29
Frances A Lax 9
William J Lax 7
Frederick Lax 2

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jun 2015 16:36

He is Frederick Albert on original:

Francis Albert Lund

in the 1901 England Census
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Name: Francis Albert Lund
[Frederick Albert Lund]
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Father: Joseph Lund
Mother: Frances Annie Lund
Birth Place: Durham, England
Civil Parish: Crossgate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4679
Folio: 6
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Lund 47
Frances Annie Lund 39
Francis Albert Lund 17
Curtlet Lund 15
Margaret Lund 11
Walter Lund 9
Olive May Lund 4
Nora Lund 2

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jun 2015 16:21

Wife's name is Frances Annie on original. Says married 30 years 10 children born, 6 still living.
All born Crossgate Parish, Durham.

Joseph Lund

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Joseph Lund
Age in 1911: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Durham Crossgate Parish
Civil Parish: Crossgate
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 12 Neville St Durham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Clesburghman
Registration district: Durham
Registration District Number: 551
Sub-registration district: Durham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 29967
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Lund 55
Hanus Annie Lund 49
Cuthluth Curigh Lund 25
Margrath Velade Lund 21
Thomas Walter Lund 19
Clare Mary Lund 14
Norah Elieen Lund 12
Hilder May Lund 9

If your grandfather was Frederick Albert born 1884 or 1906 then someone has made a mistake in calculations. There are 6 living children listed here.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Jun 2015 16:10

Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
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LAX Frances Annie Durham 10a 462
Lund Joseph Durham 10a 462

Brian

Brian Report 23 Jun 2015 16:03

Thanks to you all for your replies, especially Cynthia who has tried to help me find my way around this confusing site.
Joseph Lund was a well known Durham City Alderman and was chairman of the bench of magistrates until his death in 1947. He was also chairman of the Poor Law Institute. He married Frances Annie Lax who was borrn in 1862. One of his sons Frederick Albert Lund was my grandfather.
I have not been able to trace the origins of Joseph Lund - there are conflicting notes in census materialas to where he was born i.e. 'Durham' 'Framwellgate Moor' and 'Relly'. The lengthy obituary in the Durham County Advertiser of the day states he was born in Thornley. This one is really a mystery - I cant find any trace of him beyond the info in the census. Any further info would be appreciated.
Best Wishes, Brian Lund

Gee

Gee Report 19 Jun 2015 17:58

His fathers probate



Name:Thomas Lund

Probate Date:7 May 1907

Death Date:7 Mar 1907 <<Windsor Lane, Knaresborough

Death Place:Yorkshire, England

Registry:Wakefield

Probate to: Joseph Lund, platelayer & Tom White, waterworks inspector £159 12s 7d

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 19 Jun 2015 13:02

Welcome to the community boards Brian.



(I'll let Brian know how to find his replies). :-)