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Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 12 Aug 2015 22:17

Hi
I wonder if is possible to find another Fathers name
Please
Olive

Andrew

Andrew Report 12 Aug 2015 22:18

Father of.....?

Andy

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Aug 2015 22:24

Not sure exactly what you mean. Can you give more details please?

Kath. x

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 12 Aug 2015 22:29

Hi Andy
William Rawson married Harriett Ann Powell 1896 Parish Church,Bulwell Nottingham
William Rawson has no Fathers name entered
Harriett Ann Powell fathers name John Powell

William Rawson was born about1876 Bulwell Nottingham
Please
Olive

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Aug 2015 22:40

If there was no father's name entered on the marriage certificate the most likely reason is that he was illegitimate, in which case there is very little chance of finding out who he was unless he is named on a baptism record - though this is unlikely.

Kath. x

Rambling

Rambling Report 12 Aug 2015 22:41

1881 name: William Rawson
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relationship to Head: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Bulwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Bulwell
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: Stockdale St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Basford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3332
Folio: 47
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
William Beardsley 52
Sarah Beardsley 50
William Beardsley 20
Herbert Beardsley 18
William Rawson 4

malyon

malyon Report 12 Aug 2015 22:42

could this be william born 1877 in 1881 census


Name Wm Rawson
Age (Original) 4
Gender Male
Birth Year 1877
Birthplace Nottingham
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Marital Status Single
Occupation Scholar
Address 17 Dennett St
Event Place Nottingham St Mary, Nottinghamshire, England
Record Type Household
Affiliate Publication Number RG11
Piece/Folio 3358 / 104
Page Number 50
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Frederick W Rawson Head M 30 Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Emma Rawson Wife F 31 Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Ellen Rawson Daughter F 11 Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Fredk W Rawson Son M 6 Nottingham
Wm Rawson Son M 4 Nottingham
Thomas Rawson Son M 2 Nottingham

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Aug 2015 22:47

I think the census that Rose found is more likely to be the one. He is still with the Beardsleys in 1891 but is shown as grandson rather than nephew.

Kath. x

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Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 12 Aug 2015 22:49

Hi Kath
Thankyou for your reply
Maybe William Rawson was baptised at Bulwell Parish Church
If so it would state his Mothers name??

Olive

malyon

malyon Report 12 Aug 2015 22:50

this could be him in 1891 census

William Rawson
England and Wales Census, 1891
Name William Rawson
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Nottinghamshire
Parish BULWELL
Ecclesiastical Parish ST MARYS
Sub-District BULWELL
Registration District BASFORD
Gender Male
Age 14
Relationship to Head of Household Grandson
Birthplace Bulwell, Nottinghamshire
Schedule Type Household

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 12 Aug 2015 23:04

Hi Mallon
Yes that could be William Rawson I wonder who his Mother was??
Thankyou
Olive

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Aug 2015 23:08

This could be his baptism:-

First name(s) William
Last name Rawson
Birth year -
Baptism year 1876
Baptism date 07 Jun 1876
Denomination Anglican
Church St Mary the Virgin and All Souls
Baptism place Bulwell
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Emma
Mother's last name Rawson
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Record set Nottinghamshire baptisms

Kath. x

malyon

malyon Report 12 Aug 2015 23:23

could this be his mother if she was emma


Emma Rawson
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name Emma Rawson
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1881
Registration District Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Event Place Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Age (available after 1866) 49
Birth Year (Estimated) 1832
Volume 7B
Page 166
Line Number 22

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 13 Aug 2015 05:59

Hi
Thankyou all so much
I will try to search the Census to see if William Rawson is William Beardsleys Grandson /or Nephew??

Olive

brummie46

brummie46 Report 13 Aug 2015 08:46

have you tried a search on what maylon as found. Cross check siblings Frederick and Thomas to see if anything is found re their parents/grandparents.
good luck

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 13 Aug 2015 10:25

This looks like William's birth (it would tie in with the baptism I found).:-

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name RAWSON
Birth year 1876
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District BASFORD
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 210
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006

Basford registration district covers Bulwell.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 13 Aug 2015 10:32

It is possible that if William's mother WAS Emma then she went on to marry after William's birth. There is this marriage in the right area:-

First name(s) EMMA
Last name RAWSON
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1878
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ EMMA RAWSON married one of these people
JAMES MASON, GEORGE WOODWARD
District BASFORD
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 199
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008

Kath. x

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 13 Aug 2015 13:41

Hi Kath
I have popped into the local library that has Ancesrty to see if I can find any thing re Rawson and Beardsley
But nothing
Thankyou for all your help
Olive :-)

Kayak

Kayak Report 13 Aug 2015 15:00

How about this:


1861 census for William Beardsley:


1861 Census
4 Records found


Piece: RG9/2441 Place: Bulwell -Nottinghamshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Bulwell Ecclesiastical Parish: Bulwell
Folio: 24 Page: 41 Schedule: 207
Address: Scrap Row

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BEARDSLEY William Head S M 34 Framework Knitter Nottinghamshire - Bulwell
WOODWARD Sarah Boardr S F 32 Glove Stitcher Nottinghamshire - Bulwell
WOODWARD George Boardr - M 4 Nottinghamshire - Bulwell
WOODWARD William Boardr - M 10m Nottinghamshire - Bulwell




Marriage for this couple in 1865:


Marriages Jun 1865 (>99%)
Beardsley William Basford 7b 127 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Burton Sarah Basford 7b 127
Woodward Henry Basford 7b 127
Woodward Sarah Basford 7b 127 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<



Then in 1871 census:



Sarah Beardsley
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Sarah Beardsley
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Bulwell, Bulwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Enumeration District 1
Gender Female
Age 42
Marital Status Married
Occupation Winder Of Cotton
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birth Year (Estimated) 1829
Birthplace Bulwell, Nottinghamshire
Entry Number 16
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/3490/0028
Household


Birthplace
William Beardsley Head M 44 Bulwell, Nottinghamshire
Sarah Beardsley Wife F 42 Bulwell, Nottinghamshire
Thomas Woodman Son M 19 Bulwell, Nottinghamshire
Jeremiah Woodman Son M 14 Bulwell, Nottinghamshire
William Woodman Son M 10 Bulwell, Nottinghamshire
Herbert Woodman Son M 8 Bulwell, Nottinghamshire


If you look for a birth reg for Jeremiah Woodman there does not appear to be one but there is one in 1857 for a Jeremiah Woodward so maybe the Woodman children have been mistranscribed and should be Woodward

Then in 1878 this marriage:

Marriages Mar 1878
Mason James Basford 7b 199
Rawson Emma Basford 7b 199 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
SHARP Harriet Basford 7b 199
WOODWARD George Basford 7b 199 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Then possibly this couple in 1881 census:

Name: George Woodward
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
[1855]
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Emma Woodward
Gender: Male
Where born: Bulwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Bulwell
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: New Market Rd
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: Basford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3332
Folio: 44
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
George Woodward 35
Emma Woodward 24
George Woodward 2



Ancestry has a submitted date of birth year for George of 1855

so: Possibly Emma Rawson had William Rawson before her marriage to George Woodawrd . This would make William Rawson the Step Grandson of Sarah and William Beardsley

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 13 Aug 2015 15:24

Hi
So William Beardsley married Sarah Woodward
@ 1865 Nottingham
But Sarah had sons one called George Woodward who married Emma Rawson @ 1878 Nottingham
That's how William Rawson is called Grandson in Census 1891
Hope I have the info right !,
Thankyou all so much
Olive