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John
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3 Sep 2015 22:04 |
I have posted about this family before in the community but I only got to find out where they landed in Canada. I now was hoping someone out there with access to Canadian & US records can help find spouses and descendants so I can trace the family to present day.
I am seeking descendants of the Johnson family who emigrated to Canada. Father: Albert Johnson b.1879 Pool-in-Wharfedale, Yorkshire. Mother: Mary-Ann Hatfield b.1876 Old Malton, Yorkshire Albert travelled to Quebec, Canada, May 1911 on ship 'Southwark' with son Robert Johnson (b.1906) age 6. Mary Ann, Carrie (b.1907) and William (b.1910) followed on ship to Halifax Nova Scotia in April 1912 Albert was a Canadian soldier of WW1. Twins Albert and Alfred Johnson b.1913 Halton, Ontario, Canada. Both died in infancy 1913. Son Alfred b.1915 Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. That's all the information I have. Mary Ann Johnson died 1935. She died of carcinoma of Kidney, metastasis to lungs. Son Afred (b 1915 Ontario) possibly appears on United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States. Manifest of Alien Arrivals at Niagara Falls, New York 18 July 1938. After that blank - no marriages found or children thereafter. Can anyone take it from there please? Thanks if you helped me before. I am very grateful to my GR friends. John Pick
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MarieCeleste
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3 Sep 2015 22:12 |
John - could you give a link to your original post so that research isn't duplicated?
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ArgyllGran
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3 Sep 2015 23:04 |
This seems to be the earlier thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1348879
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ArgyllGran
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3 Sep 2015 23:15 |
EDIT: already posted on other thread.
All born England except son Alfred.
Alfred Johnson in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name: Alfred Johnson Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Age: 6 Birth Year: abt 1915 Birth Place: Ontario Relation to Head of House: Son Father's name: Albert Johnson Father Birth Place: England Mother's name: Mary A Johnson Mother Birth Place: England Racial or Tribal Origin: English Province or Territory: Ontario District: Halton District Number: 86 Sub-District: Burlington (Town) Sub-District Number: 23 City, Town or Village: Burlington Street or Township: Beach Municipality: Burlington Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Albert Johnson 42 Mary A Johnson 44 Robert Johnson 16 Carcy Johnson 14 Wm Johnson 10 Alfred Johnson 6
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John
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4 Sep 2015 10:11 |
Thanks again MarieCeleste. Thanks ArgyllGran - the link you have to previous post is the correct one. It's looking like the entire family disappears! Surely records exist somewhere. I know mis-spelling of names on official records don't help and Johnson is a common name but I can't find anything else. :-(
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John
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4 Sep 2015 10:22 |
In previous thread:
Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew lists 1905-1963
Name:Robert Johnson
Gender:Male
Age:24
Nationality:English
Birth Date:abt 1905
Birth Place:Malton, England
Arrival Date:1 May 1929
Arrival Port:Detroit, Michigan, USA
Departure Contact:Father Albert, Burlington, Ontario
Arrival Contact:Friend Chas Geedwell
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ArgyllGran
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4 Sep 2015 12:12 |
Complete shot in the dark - absolutely no proof:
Robert Johnson in the 1940 United States Federal Census Name: Robert Johnson Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1906 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: England Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1940: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Map of Home in 1940: View Map Street: Brown Street House Number: 4558 Inferred Residence in 1935: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Residence in 1935: Same Place Resident on farm in 1935: No Citizenship: Naturalized Sheet Number: 1A Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 2 Occupation: Salesman House Owned or Rented: Rented Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 25 Attended School or College: No Highest Grade Completed: High School, 2nd year Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 40 Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work Weeks Worked in 1939: 50 Income: 1200 Income Other Sources: No Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Johnson 34 Mary Johnson 31 - born England, naturalised Charles Johnson 4 - born Pennsylvania
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John
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4 Sep 2015 12:42 |
Thanks ArgyllGran. It's promising. I could look for a marriage to Mary.
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ArgyllGran
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4 Sep 2015 15:47 |
Unfortunately, the names are so common that without some corroborating info such as father's name, there's no way of knowing if he's your Robert or not.
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mgnv
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5 Sep 2015 08:57 |
Canadian Ancestry Labour Day freebie: "Start with FREE ACCESS to all Canadian immigration records. Access to the records in the featured collections will be free until September 7, 2015 at 11:59 p.m. ET." [i.e., 5 am Tues UK time]
Births Mar 1879 (>99%) Johnson Albert Wharfedale 9a 148 Johnson Alfred Wharfedale 9a 148
Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1879 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference JOHNSON Albert Fewston Leeds FEWS/6/188 JOHNSON Alfred Fewston Leeds FEWS/6/189
I've posted the free image URLs - valid after freebie is over.
Ship: SOUTHWARK Shipping Line: Dominion Line Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Date of Departure: 1911-05-18 Port of Arrival: Quebec, Que. Montreal, Que. Date of Arrival: 1911-05-30 1911-05 Year: 1911 Microfilm Reel Number: T-4776 Reference: RG 76 Item Number: 5616 http://data2.archives.ca/e/e143/e003569957.jpg [Albert a=32; Master R a=6]
Ship: CANADA Shipping Line: White Star Line Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Date of Departure: 1912-03-23 Port of Arrival: Halifax, N.S. Portland, ME Date of Arrival: 1912-04-01 1912-04 Year: 1912 Microfilm Reel Number: T-4742-4743 Reference: RG 76 Item Number: 12403 http://data2.archives.ca/e/e243/e006070823.jpg
1921 access is not free if you go via, say, http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
However, anyone can search 1921 and get images, transcriptions for free (and not just this Labour Day), but only via: http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991 [Don't let Ancestry bounce you to another of their sites]
Here's his attestation form: Name: JOHNSON, ALBERT Regimental Number: 663340 Date of Birth: 11/01/1879 Reference: RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 4845 - 45 Item Number: 333959 http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc007/421103a.gif http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc007/421103b.gif
If you search again a year from now at: http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/search.aspx by then, his complete service record should be free online.
Title: Veterans Death Cards: First World War Mikan Number: 46114 Microform: johnson_a Page 5 of 1325 http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/obj/006003/dc-fww/johnson_a/jpg/johnson_a_0005.jpg [Albert d 11/2/62 in Burlington - n.o.k. was his daur Mrs Carrie McKenna of Burlington]
Ontario BMDs are closed (except to family) for 97/82/0 y. Although Death records are technically open, there is no index released for 70y.
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John
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5 Sep 2015 16:20 |
Thanks for links to Albert's military record mgnv. We now know Carrie married a Mr McKenna which is a big help. Well done for that. Much appreciated. :-D
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John
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5 Sep 2015 16:59 |
Burlington Gazette 02/10/1929 Mckenna, Ronald S. and Johnson, Carrie, (Marriage notice)
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ArgyllGran
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6 Sep 2015 13:22 |
Mrs Carrie McKenna in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 Name: Mrs Carrie McKenna Gender: F (Female) Year: 1963 Location: Ontario, Canada Electoral District: Halton
With Ronald McKenna, taxi driver, and Donald McKenna, truck driver.
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ArgyllGran
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6 Sep 2015 13:24 |
With Donald McKenna, labourer; Mrs Valerie McKenna, switchboard operator; and Cyril McKenna, steelworker. Perhaps Ronald has died 1963-65 ??
Mrs Carrie McKenna in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 Name: Mrs Carrie McKenna Gender: F (Female) Year: 1965 Location: Ontario, Canada Electoral District: Halton
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John
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6 Sep 2015 19:47 |
That's brilliant ArgyllGran! I also found through Google an obituary for Donald (Ronald and Carrie's son) on a website:
http://www.obitsforlife.com/obituary/458962/McKenna-Donald.php
The obituary mentions a lot of the family but I am finding it totally confusing regarding his siblings - if you read it you'll see what I mean.
Thanks again.
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MargaretM
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6 Sep 2015 20:06 |
I see it as:
Brother of: Audrey married to Donald Ramey Bernice married to Carmen Miller who is deceased Valerie married to Eugene Benner Cy married to Julie Linda formerly married to a Gower. Ron who is deceased
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ArgyllGran
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6 Sep 2015 21:56 |
With Eugene Benner, driver.
Mrs Valerie Benner in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 Name: Mrs Valerie Benner Gender: F (Female) Year: 1974 Location: Halton; Wentworth, Ontario, Canada Electoral District: Halton-Wentworth
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ArgyllGran
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6 Sep 2015 22:04 |
With Mrs Bernice Miller, and Ronald McKenna, dispatcher:
Carmen Miller in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 Name: Carmen Miller Occupation: Welder Year: 1965 Location: Ontario, Canada Electoral District: Halton
?? With Mrs Carmen Miller:
Carmen Miller in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 Name: Carmen Miller Occupation: Iron Wkr Year: 1974 Location: Halton; Wentworth, Ontario, Canada Electoral District: Halton-Wentworth
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ArgyllGran
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6 Sep 2015 22:15 |
With Donald Ramey, crane operator:
Mrs Audrey Ramey in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: Mrs Audrey Ramey Gender: F (Female) Year: 1968 Location: Halton; Wentworth, Ontario, Canada Electoral District: Halton-Wentworth
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John
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6 Sep 2015 22:59 |
Thank you so much ArgyllGran. This is great. Pity I can't access Canadian BMD's but this is a fantastic start and more than I hoped for. Sincere thanks.
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