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rowley John & Martha further request please

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AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Sep 2015 06:00

These are the deaths brummie46 has:

Death
First name(s) JOHN E
Last name ROWLEY
Gender Male
Birth year 1853
Age 73
Death quarter 4
Death year 1926
District WORCESTER
County Worcestershire
Volume 6C Page 108
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Death
First name(s) MARTHA
Last name ROWLEY
Gender Female
Birth year 1855
Age 64
Death quarter 3
Death year 1919
District WORCESTER
County Worcestershire
Volume 6C Page 80

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Sep 2015 07:21

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1329427

(relating above, although suggestion 1915 Death for Martha)

Chris :)

Margee Report 7 Aug 2013 16:16

Is this them?

1911 England Census
about Martha Rowley Name: Martha Rowley
Age in 1911: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Dawley, Shropshire
Civil Parish: Smethwick
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 16 Bertram Road, Smethwick
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 34
Estimated Marriage Year: 1877
Registration District: Kings Norton
Registration District Number: 383
Sub-registration District: Smethwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household Schedule Number: 207
Piece: 17964
Household Members: Name Age
John Edwin Rowley 58
Martha Rowley 55
Harold John Rowley 21

Married 34 years, 7 children, 6 still living.

brummie46

brummie46 Report 24 Sep 2015 08:38

Hi CHris;Ho thanks to what you sent but still baffled where they lived after 1911 census given. But still wondering if electoral would show anything after this year as to actually the address of them.Quite shocked about 7 children and 6 still living will have to research on that one I must have missed something.
Apologies to Margee (2013)
thanks much appreciated

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Sep 2015 09:02

Unfortunately, nothing in on-line newspapers for the 1926 death. No probate either.

I certainly wouldn't be precluding that death - the middle initial matches. The death is registered in Worcester registration district, not necessarily the town of Worcester. That registration district may cover an area not too far from where they were in 1911 (also classed as Worcester then).

As regards electoral rolls, although Ancestry claim to have Midlands electoral rolls they in fact only appear to cover Birmingham. FindMyPast have none for the area. So I'd guess a library local to the area would be the answer (although buying that death cert is probably easier).

Brummie46 - you say you're shocked at 7 children, 6 living - what children did you have for them?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Sep 2015 09:43

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
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ROWLEY Edward Bickerton Madeley 6a 642

(does above relate to Edwin B)


edits

National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Edwin Bickerton
Last name Rowley
School name Smethwick Central Board School
Town Smethwick
County Staffordshire

(Parent, John Edwin, 19, Oxford Road. Was Born 3 Apr. 1881. Last School, Jenkins St, B'ham)

Chris :)


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

(above brings below entries)


Marriages Jun 1876

Rowley John Edwin Madeley 6a 1247 mojo
Rowley John Edwin. Madeley 6a 1247 cliffa

Postems for this entry:

06/07/2007 beleive married a martha bickerton born 1853
09/04/2009 Martha Bickerton is my great great grandmother. Believed to have been born 1856
09/06/2010 martha born 1855 dawley shropshire and john was born about 1853 in dawley shropshire?????



Marriages Dec 1910

Rowley Edwin B. King's N. 6c 875 cokesidedoors

Postems for this entry:

07/09/2009 believed to be son of martha bickerton and john edwin rowley.
brother of thomas, william harold florence and martha.
married lilian isabel gough. had a daughter joan isabel born 1911
29/06/2010 addition to previous notes a daughter Kay 1917 and a son Edwin.B 1925
29/06/2010 also daughter kay 1916 and a son edwin.B. 1925

Andysmum

Andysmum Report 24 Sep 2015 16:32

Although I can't help with your particular query, I just wanted to say that my great grandmother Jane was also a Rowley, with brothers John and Edward/Edwin. They came from the Bridgnorth area of Shropshire and I have had trouble sorting them out because they use the same names all the time!

There seem to have been Rowleys in every village in Shropshire at the time!!

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 24 Sep 2015 18:02

I have loads of relatives from King's Norton, Aston and Stourport and the GRO can be anything from Worcestershire to Shropshire...it's not easy!

Jude

brummie46

brummie46 Report 25 Sep 2015 12:12

firstly Chris Ho, yes that's them that you have found.
Marie Celeste, you probably have solved the query on districts etc.,
Agree with you Hey Jude its finding out when Smethwick under Kings Norton and if that was in Worcestershire or Warwickshire/sstaffordshire etc.,
Andysmum, yes I had the same problem when I started doing my tree line of Rowleys I haven't come across any in Bridgnorth though. I think my Rowleys possibly originated from Stoke on Trent area but still to investigate on that.
thanks to everyone.