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12 Oct 2015 20:20 |
In 1861 I'm trying to Trace a family Andrew Hardy/Hardie b. 1830 wife Marion b. 1829. Scotland, possible children with them William, Thomas, margaret, Marion. may be old monkland, Lanarkshire. Scotland. I have them on 1871 in durham, england with only 4 children william, Thomas, James and Jane. andrew, marion James and Jane/jennie emigrated to America between 1871-1880. Not sure what happened to rest of family? I have not discovered Andrew Hardie or Marion Brooks(by) on 1851 yet either. Thanks Cheryl
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12 Oct 2015 20:35 |
1861 Scotland Census
Andrew Hardie
Age:31
Estimated birth year:abt 1830
Relationship:Head
Spouse's name :Marion Hardie
Gender:Male
Where born:Muirkirk, Ayrshire
Registration Number:652/1
Registration district:Old Monkland Western District
Civil Parish:Old Monkland
County:Lanarkshire
Address:Clay Pit
Occupation:Pit Shanker
ED:10
Household schedule number:27
LINE:10
Roll:CSSCT1861_118
Household Members:
Andrew Hardie 31 Pit Shanker Marion Hardie 32 William Hardie 9 Thomas Hardie 6 Margaret Hardie 4 Marion Hardie 2
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12 Oct 2015 20:40 |
Andrew Hardis
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Andrew Hardis Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth Shore Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: Monk ED, institution, or vessel: 2e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 194 Piece: 2398 Folio: 270 Page Number: 43 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Rains 41 - born Chester le Street Leptwins Rains 8 - son, born Co Durham [Septimus] Andrew Hardis 22 - lodger, coal miner Marion Hardis 22 - stepdaughter, born Scotland
I don't think Joseph's surname is Rains, but can't make out what it is.
EDIT:
It's Lewins - but he's almost certainly not related anyway.
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Cheryl
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12 Oct 2015 20:43 |
Thank you so much a great help. Is there by any chance a place of birth for Thomas as i have not found a baptism for him? Cheryl
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12 Oct 2015 20:43 |
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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bothwell Street, Lanark, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Learn more Print transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Robt Hardy Male 45 1796 Scotland Transcription Janet Hardy Female 30 1811 Scotland Transcription Janet Hardy Female 14 1827 Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Andrew Hardy Male 12 1829 Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Margt Hardy Female 3 1838 Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Alexr Hay Male 25 1816 Scotland Transcription George Pepps Male 20 1821 Scotland Transcription John McCorqudale Male 15 1826 Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription George Clark Male 20 1821 Scotland
1851 on fmp.
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Colliery Dwell Houses, Sunderland, Durham, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph Lemius Head Widower Male 41 1810 Coal Miner Chester Le Street, Durham, England Transcription Septimus Lemius Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Durham, England Transcription Andrew Hardie Lodger Married Male 22 1829 Coal Miner Scotland Transcription Marion Hardie - Married Female 22 1829 - Scotland (reads wife of lodger, not stepdaughter as ancestry has it)
1861 with places of birth.
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Clay Pit, Old Monkland, Old Monkland Western District, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Learn more Print transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Andrew Hardie Head Married Male 31 1830 Pit Shanker Muirkirk, Ayrshire, Scotland Transcription Marion Hardie Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Transcription William Hardie Son - Male 9 1852 - England Transcription Thomas Hardie Son - Male 6 1855 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Margaret Hardie Daughter - Female 4 1857 - Bathgate, Lanarkshire, Scotland Transcription Marion Hardie Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Grangemouth, Stirlingshire, Scotland
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Cheryl
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12 Oct 2015 20:48 |
Thanks for 1841 more than i expected. Can any one spot Marion Brooks/Brooksby? Cheryl
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ArgyllGran
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12 Oct 2015 20:49 |
Possibility for Thomas's birth?? (Would make age in 1861 a couple of years out.)
Births Sep 1852 (>99%) Hardie Thomas Sunderland 10a 339
Or maybe this one? A few credits on Scotlands People would let you view the image of the original, to see who his parents were.
1855 HARDIE THOMAS M BLYTHSWOOD GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 0727
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Cheryl
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12 Oct 2015 20:52 |
Brilliant thanks for info. on Thomas. Glasgow sounds about right. Cheryl
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alviegal
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12 Oct 2015 20:53 |
This could also be the 1841? Their marriage certificate may help.
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Quarry Row, Kelloe, Easington, Durham, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Margaret Hardy Female 35 1806 Scotland Transcription Andrew Hardy Male 11 1830 Scotland Transcription William Hardy Male 9 1832 Durham, England Transcription Robert Hardy Male 7 1834 Durham, England Transcription John Hardy Male 2 1839 Durham, England
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ArgyllGran
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12 Oct 2015 20:57 |
Marriage:
01/12/1848 HARDIE ANDREW MARRION BROOKS/FR1905 (FR1905) M AIRDRIE OR NEW MONKLAND /LANARK 651/00 0070 0470
Viewing the image of the cert would let you see Marion's parents' names, which would assist in finding her in 1841.
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Cheryl
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12 Oct 2015 21:02 |
Thanks for the Marriage date. Alot for me to work with now. Cheryl
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alviegal
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12 Oct 2015 21:08 |
Name: Andrew Hardie Gender: Male Marriage Date: Dec 1848 Marriage Place: New Monkland,Lanark,Scotland Spouse: Marrion Brooks FHL Film Number: 1066601, 0102960
EDIT oops, I see you got there first AG.
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Cheryl
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12 Oct 2015 21:18 |
i have come across 2 more children for andrew and Marion. Andrew born 1861 lanark, scotland. john born 1865 Denny, Stirling. Not on 1871 census with them? Possibly died? Can any spot them on 1871 Census. thanks Cheryl
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12 Oct 2015 21:21 |
Family in the US.
1880
Name: Andrew Hardy Age: 52 Birth Year: abt 1828 Birthplace: Scotland Home in 1880: Zaleski, Vinton, Ohio Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Marion Hardy Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Works In Coal Mines Cannot read/write:
Blind:
Deaf and Dumb:
Otherwise disabled:
Idiotic or insane: View image Household Members: Name Age Andrew Hardy 52 Marion Hardy 52 James Hardy 13
1900
Name: Andrew Hardy Age: 71 Birth Date: Jul 1828 Birthplace: Scotland Home in 1900: Sand Run, Hocking, Ohio Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1874 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Marion Hardy Marriage Year: 1849 Years Married: 51 Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Andrew Hardy 71 Marion Hardy 71 Daral Hardy 12 grandson, b Ohio
Is this Thomas living nearby??
1900
Name: Thomas Hardy Age: 46 Birth Date: Apr 1854 Birthplace: Scotland Home in 1900: Sand Run, Hocking, Ohio Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1880 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Hardy Marriage Year: 1897 Years Married: 3 Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Hardy 46 Mary Ann Hardy 35 Birthplace: England Robert Hardy 16 Birthplace: Missouri James Hardy 14 Birthplace: Ohio, stepson Margaret Hardy 13 Birthplace: Ohio, srepdaughter Thomas Hardy 12 Birthplace: Missouri Walter Hardy 8 Birthplace: Ohio, stepson
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ArgyllGran
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12 Oct 2015 21:21 |
This is the only birth of a Marion Brooks in Scotland 1825 -35 - but it doesn't feel like the right one to me. The date's wrong, apart from anything else.
01/01/1832 BROOKS MARION ALEXANDER BROOKS/MARGARET BOYLE FR2824 (FR2824) F FALKIRK /STIRLING 479/00 0100 0407
There's also this birth:
30/08/1832 BROOKSBY MARY ANN ROBERT BROOKSBY/MARGARET DRUMMOND FR9207 (FR9207) F ST CUTHBERT'S EDINBURGH CITY CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/02 0340 0538
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Chris Ho :)
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12 Oct 2015 21:23 |
Baptism Place Kelloe Church name St Helen Register type Register entry number 218 Baptism date 13 Jan 1839 Person forename John Person sex M Person abode New Thornley Father forename Andrew Father surname HARDY Father occupation Pitman Mother forename Margaret Mother surname BROOKS Notes 4th son
Baptism County Durham Place Kelloe Church name St Helen Register type Register entry number 614 Baptism date 15 Aug 1836 Person forename Margaret Person sex F Person abode New Thornley Father forename Andrew Father surname HARDY Father occupation Pitman Mother forename Margaret Mother surname BROOKSLEY Notes 1st daughter
(if John relating to 1841 posted)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
Chris :)
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Cheryl
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12 Oct 2015 21:28 |
Thanks Marion Brooks/ Brooksby is daughter of Robert Brooksby and Margaret Drummond I have never found a Baptism for her. Not helping with all the family going back and forwards from brooksby to Brooks!! Cheryl
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ArgyllGran
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12 Oct 2015 21:34 |
The "birth" record I posted for Marion (Mary Ann Brooksby) will actually be her christening - it's an old parish record, not a birth cert.
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Cheryl
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12 Oct 2015 21:36 |
Thanks chris for those Kelloe Baptisms, thats food for thought. Cheryl
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ArgyllGran
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12 Oct 2015 21:39 |
Deleted - wrong info
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