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he was def a shoe maker both james's was and the james whom married martha that is def all correct have the marriage cert info here James jnr was born shoreditch i had his mother down as mary abt 1818 devonshire but that was from family notes so im really not sure at all as that could be wrong my entire family stems from hackney areas but branches to watton

I can't see James senior, nor Susannah George in 1841.
Nor can I see them in later censuses (if they were a totally different couple from the ones we're looking for).

i just really dont know the hendry bits are right as i have the marriage its just the james senior stuff but anything shoe maker is correct def

I haven't had a chance to look again properly at this- (should get time in the morning) but notice he is not listed as James William on his marriage to Martha- just James.

ok thank you and yes middle name isnt noted on his marriage cert

Here's James Young senior in 1851, when his wife and son are in Norfolk:

James Young
in the 1851 England Census

Name: James Young
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Merton, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: St Anne Soho
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 14 Crown Street
Occupation: Shoemaker <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Piece: 1510
Folio: 139
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Cummings 54
Benjiman Cummings 22
Esther Cummings 18
Rachel Taylor 19
James Young 36

ah great thank you