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Archibald (dob 17/8/1893) and Gwendoline Baker (dob 6/3/1914) are listed in the 1939 register as living at Cromer, Westover Road, Fleet, Hampshire.
They had three children, two boys and a girl.
Please does anyone have more details of this family ?

John Barrie

Hi John

Exactly what information are you looking for?

you should be able to find their children on FreeBMD using the surname combinations

if this is his birth then it helps searches to know his full name/initials

Births Sep 1893
Baker Archibald Henry A Wandsworth 1d 760

The only birth registered in England or Wales that matches the birth details you gave, is the one Shirley posted.

Archibald Henry Arthur Baker in the London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name:Archibald Henry Arthur Baker
Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:29 Oct 1893
Father's name:Arthur Baker (Occ: Guard) 53 Seaffild ??? Road
Mother's name:Eliza Baker
Parish or Poor Law Union:Wandsworth St Anne
Borough:Wandsworth
Register Type:Parish Registers

not seeing any marriage for them .what was Gwendoline,s maiden name ?

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name: Archibald Henry Arthur Baker
Probate Date: 19 Mar 1954
Registry: London, England
Death Date: 7 Jan 1954
Death Place: Portsmouth

Probate to Cyril Leslie Baker railway clerk
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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Archibald H A Baker
Birth Date: abt 1894
Date of Registration: Mar 1954
Age at Death: 60
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b Page: 540

As Gwendoline Baker on the 1939 register was 21 years younger than Archibald might she be an older daughter rather than his wife?

I can't see a marriage for Archibald/Archie & Gwendoline anywhere on FreeBMD. Closest one is this Archibald H,A. to a Christobel K. Barron.

Marriages Dec 1916 (>99%)
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Baker Archibald H A Barron Portsmouth 2b 1095
Barron Christobel K Baker Portsmouth 2b 1095

cyril is one of his sons

Births Mar 1918
Baker Cyril L Barron Portsmouth 2b 641

This seems a possible for his marriage although his wife is not a 'Gwendoline' ???

Marriages Dec 1916 (>99%)
Baker Archibald H A Barron Portsmouth 2b 1095
Barron Christobel K Baker Portsmouth 2b 1095


They did appear to have a son to fit the name on the probate record:

Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
Baker Cyril L Barron Portsmouth 2b 641


There are other possible births for them too.

Dea x

1939 register:

Baker Household Fleet U.D., Hampshire, England
Gwendoline (W) Baker 1914
Archibald Baker 1893

No children listed with them in 1939.

What were the children's names?

??

Christabel Kate Barron in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Christabel Kate Barron
Registration Year:1889
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:Whitchurch
Inferred County:Shropshire
Volume:6a
Page:751


Christabel Kate Baker in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Christabel Kate Baker
Birth Date:4 Apr 1889
Date of Registration:Mar 1982
Age at Death:92
Registration district:Surrey North Western
Inferred County:Surrey
Volume:17
Page:0892

Think that's the wrong man then:

1939 register:

Baker Household Portsmouth C.B., Hampshire, England

Archibald H Baker 1893
Christabel R Baker 1889
and 2 more people are on this record (including Cyril L Baker 1914)

Cyril also died in Surrey North Western.

Cyril Leslie Bakerin the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Cyril Leslie Baker
Birth Date:5 Dec 1917
Date of Registration:Sep 1994
Age at Death:76
Registration district:Surrey North-western
Inferred County:Surrey
Register Number:RA40
District and Subdistrict:7581A
Entry Number:9

Ah......back to the drawing board then!

Perhaps Gwendoline Baker is the wife of one of Archibald's sons.

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) GWENDOLINE W
Last name BURGESS
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1938
Spouse: ROBERT BAKER
Spouse's last name BAKER
District CROYDON
County Surrey
Volume 2A Page 991

There are quite a few Gwendoline/ Baker marriages.
I think we need a little feed back on the names of the children John mentions.

What a shame John didn't hang around. :-(

Thank you for your contributions.
The position is confusing
Archie Baker was born in Horsham on 17 August 1893.
I have been unable to find a marriage between him and Gwendoline W, so I assume they lived together but described themselves as married.
In the 1939 register Archie changed his name and described himself as Archibald. That is not the name on his birth certificate.

I should like to find out when he died, thought by the family to be in the fifities.
I should like to trace his children and discover their names.
I should like ti discover when Gwendoline died.
The family used her shortened name of Gwen

John Barrie